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4/4     Are mother in laws a good indicator to your wife's figure 1-2
        decades from now?
        \_ Yes and no. They are only half of the genetics. Also, plastic
           surgery and exercise can complicate things. I know young women
           with mothers that look better than they do. I also know
           attractive young women whose mothers look terrible because they
           do not pay attention to diet and exercise. If your wife's mom
           let herself go and your wife does not then they might look
           totally different. Pay attention to not only your wife and her
           mom, but also their lifestyles and they contribute.
           mom, but also their lifestyles and how they contribute.
           \_ Damnit. Ok. My next question is, is it appropriate to buy
              a treadmill or get incentives for her to exercise?
              \_ don't worry about it; she'll dump your bigoted ass long
                 before then.
              \_ Only if she asks for it. Otherwise, you're looking at a
                 very volatile domestic situation and possibly time on
                 the couch. And just in case you haven't figured it out
                 yet, there is _no_ good answer to "Does this dress
                 make me look fat?"
              \_ Better idea, don't say 'you' have to exercise, say 'we'
                 have to.  Go with her, play tennis together or go to
                 the gym together.  Try to make it a family/health/date
                 thing.
           \_ Good advice. Additionally, look at her father and her
              siblings; the more siblings she has, the easier it may be
              to spot trends. Then again, genetics is a crapshoot, so
              maybe not.
        \_ Mother-in-law's bedroom skills are good indicators to your wife's
           bedroom skills 1-2 decades from now.  Try out the mother-in-law
           before you marry.
           \_ I think this is totally 100% false. My mom-in-law is an
              exhibitionist who claims to love sex and who has been
              married 4 times. Both of her daughters are prudes that are
              embarrassed by her behavior and don't really care for sex as
              they see it as male repression. With sex in particular
              attitudes are more generational than they are learned from
              parents. (Product of the 1960s versus AIDS generation for
              instance.)
              \_ Sounds like you should be having sex with yermominlaw.
                 \_ Um, this could be a female posting.  She could have
                    married the mom-in-law's son and so the prude
                    daughters are the sisters-in-law, not a wife/mate.
                    100% false person, are you a woman married to
                    your mom-in-law's son, or a man married to one
                    of her prude daughters?
                    \_ A girl posting on the motd? Surely you jest.
                    \_ Look at it this way: Are hippy parents likely to
                       have hippy kids? Usually it seems like conservative
                       parents have hippy kids and hippy parents have
                       conservative kids as kids just want to rebel and be
                       different. So maybe look at whether your
                       grandmother-in-law is good in bed. Of course, the
                       problem with that is back then she was scandalous
                       when she showed ankle so maybe it's not a good
                       predictor of anything.
                       \_ I don't think that this is true, in general, but
                          I have to admit that I don't have any hard evidence,
                          but anecdotally, hippies produce more hippies and
                          religious people tend to produce children like
                          them. Have you seen any studies indicating otherwise?
                          \_ I have not seen any studies of this sort at all,
                             but I have noticed how trends seem to alternate
                             generationally - whether it's attitudes
                             towards drugs or teen pregnancy. Society
                             seems to swing one way and then the other and
                             then back.
              \_ Your wife thinks of sex as male repression?  Are you kidding?
                 Does she knows that "All sex is rape" line is an urban legend?
                 http://www.snopes.com/quotes/mackinnon.asp
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Questionable Quotes --> Rape Seeded Rape Seeded Claim: Feminist Catharine MacKinnon said "All sex is rape." Origins: Feminist legal theorist and anti-pornography crusader Catharine A MacKinnon is no stranger to controversy. During her more than twenty-five years in the public eye, she has placed herself at the heart of a number of storms raging through the realm of public opinion. She has asserted that rape laws are written to protect the perpetrators rather than the victims, and that pornography is a violation of civil rights. MacKinnon is not universally respected or liked, even within the ranks of feminism. Her outspoken nature and strong opinions have created enemies for her, and she has become a convenient target for anyone looking to run down the movement by caricaturing one of its prominent member as a strident harpy who has loudly asserted as fact any number of fool-headed opinions. It is therefore not surprising that she would be tagged with having made a pronouncement such as "All sex is rape," a statement that calls into question the sanity of the person who utters it even as it alienates most everyone who hears it. MacKinnon never made the statement which has been attributed to her. ") Critics of MacKinnon's work argue she implies all men are rapists, but the quote given here was created by MacKinnon's opponents, not MacKinnon herself. MacKinnon claims the first reference to her alleged belief that all sex is hostile surfaced in the October 1986 issue of Playboy. According to MacKinnon, the statement (which had previously been attached to feminist Andrea Dworkin) was made up by the pornography industry in an attempt to undermine her credibility. It became inextricably linked with MacKinnon's name after she began working with Dworkin in the early 1980s to write model anti-pornography laws. Dworkin has also disavowed the quote as a false statement circulated by her opponents. She has denied saying that "all sex is rape" or "all men are rapists." When asked to explain her views on the topic, Dworkin replied: "Penetrative intercourse is, by its nature, violent. What I think is that sex must not put women in a subordinate position. It must be reciprocal and not an act of aggression from a man looking only to satisfy himself. MacKinnon was further tied to the quote she did not utter by a March 1999 article by conservative commentator Cal Thomas in which he incorrectly identified her as the author of Professing Feminism and quoted her as saying: "In a patriarchal society all heterosexual intercourse is rape because women, as a group, are not strong enough to give meaningful consent." Not only is the quote misattributed, but the putative source, Professing Feminism: Cautionary Tales From the Strange World of Women's Studies, is a book criticizing the work of MacKinnon and other feminists, written by Daphne Patai and Noretta Koertge.