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2008/3/28 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:49598 Activity:nil
3/28    So, has there been any report on how CNN and a lot of western
        media manipulated the image they posted on the Web about the
        Tibet riot? On the 17th CNN posted an image showing a Chinese
        army truck driving forward while 2 "innocent people" watched
        on the side. The right half of the image was cut. It had lots
        of looters throwing rocks at the truck. WTF? There were
        countless other examples. My dad mentioned this to me, he saw
        it on one of the local Chinese newspapers. I was suspicious at
        first, but then saw it on my local Chinese news last night.
        CNN's official response: we have to cut the image to fit the
        available space on the web page. If killing, looting, burning,
        and rioting can be justified, then nothing is illegal. Our
        balanced media would have you believe that invading a country
        looking for WMD which didn't exist, killing tens of thousands
        of innocent people in the process while pocketing billions,
        torturing, is all good, while enforcing law and getting rid of
        rioters is bad just because it's a communist government and
        it's just fashionable to bash against them, no matter what
        they do. In fact, if you don't bash against them, you will be
        in trouble.

        This is clearly an organized and orchestrated event. I asked
        myself why aren't the demonstrations peaceful. 2 explanations,
        either the Chinese police/army did something which enraged the
        protesters, nothing I've seen seems to suggest that, or the
        protesters rioted for a reason. They rioted because they know
        that peaceful demonstration will not trigger much response
        from the Chinese government, and hence cannot show how evil
        they are. They must riot, and ANY response from the Chinese
        government will be viewed negatively, because of the Olympics
        and the world's eyes are on China. Tell me that the oppressed
        and backward monk in Tibet know about this without any outside
        help? Was there any report that some rioters confessed that
        they were paid to riot? I wonder where the money came from.

        Let's face it, bashing China is the safe thing to do. Because
        it is a communist government, anything and everything they do
        is evil. Because we are a democratic government, then
        everything we do is right.
                                - pissed off sodan
        \_ http://observers.france24.com/en/content/20080317-cnn-accused-propaganda-tibet-riots
        \_ Yawn.
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Web-users are saying that the photo, published by CNN, proves that the American channel is manipulating information about the Tibet crisis in order to cast China in a negative light. com, Chinese Internet users accuse CNN of editing images of the unrest in Tibet in order to omit evidence of Tibetans acting violently. The critics say that in the version of the photo published by CNN (on the left), for example, CNN intentionally cropped out the Tibetan rioters who appear to be throwing stones at a military van. CNN denies the allegation, saying the image in question was cropped because of space constraints on the CNN Web site and that the organization's coverage has been impartial (see full statement below). A lot of Chinese people believe that CNN is an organ of the CIA. They suck up all the official Chinese propaganda, which has been spouting that the foreign media wants to boycott the Olympic Games and that the Dalai Lama is behind the Tibet riots. You have to take into account that they don't have access to anything that contradicts this stuff, especially when it comes to Tibet. Chinese TV channels put together shots of the riots without any explanation about the origin of the conflict. Speeches that deviate from official limits are censored. A quick example: I saw a report this morning on CCTV's website. Not one comment criticising the intervention in Tibet got past the censors. But there are Chinese people who support the Tibetans, even if they're a minority. They're the ones who've had enough of their authoritarian government and who are participating in the riots by proxy." The riots represented by the Chinese state TV channel CCTV. It was impossible to include both the drama of the crashed vehicle on the left and the protesters on the right in the same crop, but in all cases the image was captioned: "Tibetans throw stones at army vehicles as a car burns on a street in the capital of Lhasa." com to reflect the ongoing situation in Tibet, CNN not only stands by its decision to publish this particular image, but also refutes all allegations by bloggers that CNN distorts its coverage of the events in Tibet to portray either side in a more favourable light. CNN's editorial mission is to report global news accurately and impartially and our online coverage through the use of words, images and video, always reflects a wide range of opinions and points of view. China specialist Cai Chongguo Submitted by Mike (not verified) on Fri, 03/28/2008 - 05:38. they don't have access to anything that contradicts this stuff,", so they could edited the pictures as they wanted? Julie Phineas (not verified) on Wed, 03/26/2008 - 03:00. When I see the picture I see a handful of Tibetan protestors behaving as if they are extremely upset, AND I see a handful of bystanders, one person hurrying on a bike, and some people hurrying across the street as Chinese military trucks are driving by. When fitting an image into the space for an article the most important aspect to keep is the message. To me the message that the people are upset and the military is present in the area is shown in BOTH versions of the picture. However if you watch the videos given here you will see the Chinese media only shows the protestors and not the military presence, when CNN showed both. CNN and the 'liberal' Western media Submitted by Concerned Hong Konger (not verified) on Tue, 03/25/2008 - 19:07. Secondly, I'm not sure how Mr Cai Chongguo is supposed to be considered a 'specialist' in China. Is it by virtue of his having taught philosophy in the University of Wuhan? He is making a sweeping generalization about people in China that they 'suck up' official Chinese propaganda. hk is a Hong Kong forum and we in Hong Kong do not SUCK UP anything. But of course, Mr Cai doesn't know this, he left China before Hong Kong returned. I doubt that most Hong Kong people think that the Dalai Lama is behind the riots, and even if they did, it wouldn't be because of the official Chinese propaganda. Mr Cai really underestimates the mental capacity of his FORMER fellow countrymen. Don't you think people wonder why the conflict is occuring and conclude that it must be ethnically related, especially if the government does not offer an explanation? I think it's alarming that so many in the West believe that Chinese netizens are a part of an uncultured mass of babbling idiots who do not have an opinion on their own independent of the CCP's official stance on things. Many's opinion of the West are not good not because the CCP says so, but because of what we perceive to be injustices. As one of the comments on the forum indicates, one netizen felt that the "Free Tibet" comment by Bjork earlier this year was somehow related to a wider Western conspiracy to stir up trouble during the Olympic year. Do you think the CCP allowed coverage of Bjork's comment so that this netizen could come to the conclusion that Westerners were conspiring against China? The CCP, if it were as characterized by the West and Americans, would opt to censor that comment altogether! And to all you Westerners who talk about censorship in China. Do any of you "supporters of Tibet" actually know what is going on in Tibet? Why do so many people blindly call for a "free Tibet" when you have no idea what the situation is? All the information you get is one-sided and you summarily dismiss anything that the Chinese side has to offer. Don't you guys ever find it interesting that non of China's other minority areas are ever brought up by the Western media? Is China also "cracking down" on those areas or is China only focused on "eradicating" the Tibetans? Could it be that the Dalai Lama clique is a little clever in their PR efforts and able to draw in brainwashed idiot celebrities like Stephen Seagal and Richard Gere so that you will also support "Free Tibet" Finally, in response to CNN's response. They know better than anyone that a 'picture is worth a thousand words' and yet they defend their cropped picture with "Oh, and we included a comment below". Most people will not pay attention to the comment, and they know it. Also, the links that CNN points to were published after the fact. I'm a native Chinese so Submitted by Anonyme (not verified) on Sun, 03/23/2008 - 12:04. I'm a native Chinese so please forgive my imperfect english. I dont see any relation between the accuse and the writer's comment. simply: the accuse-CNN used a pic which was cut, and with the crucial part. the comment: chinese net users believe the authorities are right in every scene. the writer seems to be blind to all the attacks on chinese net against its own authorities before. it's usually politically incorrect to support the authorities in forums like tianya. and one of the most focused target of the users is that the govt is too weak to the outside, say, Japan; in fact, before this I even had little knowledge on the negative attitude to CNN, including my own. as far as I know it's no agency of CIA-well VOA may be closer, and you can get the record of VOA in china more easily in the us. Recommendation: Documentary: Submitted by Anonyme (not verified) on Sun, 03/23/2008 - 01:06. Recommendation: Documentary: Tibet Diary , you could find it by google. Submitted by Jason (not verified) on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 07:27. Linda, maybe you should move to China because according to the dodgers where were just there, every time CNN showed something that cast China in a negative light.. You'll have fun in the mining camps and if your lucky, you can be an involuntary organ donor! Tibet SHOULD be free and Taiwan HAS been a free country for over 60 years now... At least, Chinese CCTV did Submitted by Anonyme (not verified) on Wed, 03/19/2008 - 08:57. What CNN did is deceiving to innocent Americans and the world as they always claim to be unbiased media from a democratic country which has been fighting for human rights for mankind all over the planet. I'll buy you a ticket too Submitted by Jahved (not verified) on Tue, 03/18/2008 - 14:44. Linda, I have grown up in China and i completely agree with Jason. You sound as brainwashed as the poor Chinese people and there state media. It is ni...