Entry 49554 (Berkeley CSUA MOTD)

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2025/05/24 [General] UID:1000 Activity:popular

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2008/3/24-27 [Computer/SW/Languages/Java] UID:49554 Activity:kinda low

3/24    http://plone.org/about/movies
        Java is the COBOL of 21st century, as exaggerated by the author.
        Scroll to the bottom and click that video.
        \_ Wow, what a weak argument.  It boils down to "properties are good!"
           No balance about drawbacks of Python, and a tremendously weak
           analysis of Ruby.
           \_ Java is the crapness.  Admit it.
              \_ Oh, I happily admit it. -pp
        \_ C.  High enough level to get work done, low enough level to do
           anything you need.
           \_ Any language without garbage collection is a lose.  Development/
              debug time is tons higher.  (There are places where C is good,
              but most of them are native calls inside tight loops.)
              \_ Garbage collection is just a crutch for sloppy programming.
                 \_ Wrong.  Garbage collection lets you build code that doesn't
                    have to worry about lifespan issues.  That's a huge win.
                    Yes, 99% of all memory allocation issues are easy, but
                    that 1% will kill you.
        \_ I've used C, Java and Ruby and this is one of the most content-free
           arguments I've seen on the topic of language choice.

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