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2008/3/21-25 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics] UID:49529 Activity:nil
3/21    Obama: "Typical white [people]" are racist.  Thanks for clearing that
        up, Obama.
        link:csua.org/u/l3d (us news)
        http://csua.org/u/l3e (full quote at NRO)
        \_ and?
           \_ And Obama's a racist, who's been going to a racist church for 20
              years.
              \_ WHITEY MUST PAY!
        \_ Well, we are.  Typical [insert whatever adjective you want, or
           not] people are racist.
           \_ I am wondering why this obviously true statement is
              controversial.
        \_ Oh nice, more out of context slime!  How about we talk about real
           issues, like the economy or the war?
        \_ "The black is a better athlete to begin with because he's been bred
           to be that way"
           "typical white person....there is a reaction that has been bred into
           our experiences"
           \_ Breeding can be cultural instead of genetic.  And do you deny
              that there's a lot of racist white people?  Yeah some minorities
              (or members of minorities) are "good ones" but that doesn't mean
              they aren't racist.  Racism exists in almost everyone.  Not
              letting racism control you is what is really imporant.
              \_ Not to mention that "behavior" and "physical traits" imply
                 much different ideas in the context of "breeding"
              \_ Jimmy the Greek was fired for his statement, and pretty much
                 shunned everywhere.
                 \_ And your point?
           \_ He's being misquoted. "bred into our experiences": he is saying
              everyone has prejudices based on their experiences. If you see
              green berries are poisonous but blue ones taste good, you might
              think all green berries are poisonous. It's human nature. He's
              not using bred in the genetic sense. It's kind of jumbled and
              I haven't seen the original source but he apparently means
              "we have reactions that our experiences have bred in us, that
              don't go away, and can come out in the wrong way." "Breed" has
              a generic meaning in addition to literal sexual reproduction.
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Philadelphia this morning, Barack Obama confronted the remains of the Jeremiah Wright brushfire, the smoldering embers of this anecdote of his grandmother using racial stereotypes that made him cringe... Obama told Cataldi that "The point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity, but that she is a typical white person. If she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know (pause) there's a reaction in her that doesn't go away and it comes out in the wrong way." speech, as you'll recall: I can no more disown him than I can disown the black community. I can no more disown him than I can my white grandmother - a woman who helped raise me, a woman who sacrificed again and again for me, a woman who loves me as much as she loves anything in this world, but a woman who once confessed her fear of black men who passed by her on the street, and who on more than one occasion has uttered racial or ethnic stereotypes that made me cringe. Apparently they mis-transcribed Obama's remark: "the point I was making was not that my grandmother harbors any racial animosity. But she is a typical white person who, you know, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, there is a reaction that has been bred into our experiences that don't go away and sometimes come out in the wrong way." This reader seems to think the phrase "that has been bred into our experiences" changes the meaning dramatically. I disagree, but here's the full quote for your own assessment.