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3/13 Oops, the media has finally noticed Obama's racist preacher. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk \_ Racist. \_ Obama's response: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html http://preview.tinyurl.com/23hqyu [huffington post] I'm sure the media will give him exacty the same treatment as they do when Pat Robertson makes some off the wall remarks. Yep. Totally sure. \_ Pat Robertson is responsible for what he says. Obama is not responsible for what someone else says. Understand the difference? |
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www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWvxTUy47Fk Filter videos that may not be suitable for minors Note: some videos not suitable for minors may still appear in search results. Barack Obama's Pastor: "God Damn AmeriKKKa" Hello, you either have JavaScript turned off or an old version of Adobe's Flash Player. Good comment Marked as spam Reply Ray Nagin told the federal government not to send help? As a New Orleans citizen who, needless to say followed the events of Katrina, I know you are misinformed. Good comment Marked as spam Reply The company one keeps does matter. For 20 years MrObama has soaked up this so called pastor's controversial divisive blather. MrObama needs to part company from this so called pastor. Good comment Marked as spam Reply The company one keeps does matter. For 20 years MrObama has soaked up this so called pastor's controversial divisive blather. MrObama needs to part company from this so called pastor. Good comment Marked as spam Reply You have a new found respect for an antisemitic racist who preaches nothing but hate between the races and spews that garbage about the government spreading drugs and AIDS to kill the black man. Good comment Marked as spam Reply This is just a sound byte. I'm sure there is a lot more to Mr Wright than this shows, and I'm sure that Obama doesn't take these pieces to heart. As much as some would like to think, religion doesn't necessarily brainwash the whole congregation with every single view of the church. If that were true, why did Obama make such moderate statements in response to Ferraro? Good comment Marked as spam Reply This election will show up all the black prejudice and hatred against the white world just as the re-election of Marion Berry, the re-election of Ray Nagin (who told the fed not to send help to New Orleans) and the trial of OJ when blacks were delirious with glee he got off after murdering 2 whites. I'll admit it Mr Wright is a nut, and I shouldn't have suggested that I was defending him personally. I guess the point I was originally trying to make is that Obama shouldn't be held responsible through association. I think if people looked at his speeches and actions, they would discover someone much different than Mr Wright. Good comment Marked as spam Reply What do you mean Obama has his own opinions? The official mission statement of the church (which Obama chooses to be a member of) underscores the kind of rhetoric this guy is espousing. Further, Obama has made it clear that his pastor is one of his most intimate role models and his spiritual leader. He is absolutely right to condemn America's foreign policy and its support of dictators and quasi genocidal regimes (like indonesia)and terrorist governments(mainly us, as our support of the terrorist contras show). I don't think it's about the KKK running the US, (after all, we bombed white Serbia in 1999) but the US pursues power interests ruthlessly, like any other country in history, I suppose. Barack Obama's pastor says blacks should not sing "God Bless America" but "God damn America." Jeremiah Wright, Obama's pastor for the last 20 years at the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago's south side, has a long history of what even Obama's campaign aides concede is "inflammatory rhetoric," including the assertion that the United States brought on the 9/11 attacks with its own "terrorism." Obama said, "I don't think my church is actually particularly controversial." Wright "is like an old uncle who says things I don't always agree with," telling a Jewish group that everyone has someone like that in their family. Wright married Obama and his wife Michelle, baptized their two daughters and is credited by Obama for the title of his book, "The Audacity of Hope." Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the US based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. "We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost," he told his congregation. |
www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html us: On My Faith and My Church The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents. Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States. I'm a Fan of LibNoodle2 Senator, Your words have touched our lives, lifted us. I think you can inspire us to work together, to be better, to rise. Please continue to say what you believe and I, for one, will continue to believe what you say. My daughters are young, like yours, and I am so excited for the prospect of public discourse between politicians to become more hopeful, so this next generation can dream. I am also hoping that somehow your dignity and demeanor will affect those in Congress. I'm a Fan of Yansher Dear Barack Thank you for taking the lead and trying to show us that you actually run your campaign the same way you live your life. The comments of your former pastor has no place in our America and I am comforted in knowing that you feel the same way. I'm a Fan of OwenScottIII This letter is not about race and extreme religious views. It's about being clear in your values and being accountable for your actions. Obama's grace in denouncing and condemning divisive and hostile statements and beliefs, even when those statements are made by someone he is close to and cares about.. Obama in spite of the sterling example he sets, maybe you should take a look at that. I'm a Fan of joclark I like that you've come out to denounce. But the problem is that once people hear it, they believe it and the damage is done. Our news cycles are so fast that quick responses like this help. I'm a Fan of riverhouse Sound and reasonable statement as is all of Barack Obama's actions and words. It is good to see leadership in action, to see a man able to discern right from wrong without being judgmental along political necessity. If only all our so called "leaders", such as Hillary Clinton and George Bush, could be so reasonable. Obama's sure confidence in himself and his sterling values are refreshing in these times of dirty politics, manipulations, false representations. Clearly Hannity and his friends in the MSM ( Russert , Politico) are trying to create a narrative that will not stick because is is sooooo untrue. Are they trying to say that you are a racist b/c of someone else's words. Are they trying to say you are racist against yourself since you are half white? Are they saying you are racist against the grandparents that raised you? It is crazy for them to think that people would believe that Obama is racist against himself! I'm a Fan of Karenina44 Dear Senator Obama -- I am truly sorry that it has come to this. Wright having been a mentor and I am sure filled a void in your life. Coming from the midwest, my church was often my extended family. And my pastor was very much a father figure, since I was raised by a single mother. So when that pastor, whom I loved like a father, whose theology I could never align myself died last month, I wept, because overall, he was truly a good man with a big heart. I'm a Fan of TerryOakland One of my best friends, someone who I hold in the highest regards, whom I know to be honest, generous, and altogether forthright is a practicing Catholic. His Pope has said some of the most ignorant, divisive, downright loathsome things through the years (along with prior Popes) that personally deeply offends me. Priests and bishops from his faith have done things (and covered up those things) that are horrifying. And yet, while he shares most (if not, in fact, more) of my displeasure with his church's leadership and policy, he remains faithful and continues to take communion every Sunday. I'm a Fan of kmdippenger I've read and heard an awful lot of prejudicial hateful comments from people who might just be claiming to be "good Christian folk". Senator Obama, the only statements I've heard by you are inspiring and based on the true spirit of what it means to be an American. I'm proud to be supporting you in this run to the Presidency. We need your leadership to help pull this country together. I'm a Fan of Amennyc It's unfortunate with all that is going on in this world.... If the American people are to uneducated to not see beyond their nose or this uncultured media, then so be it. The lost out with Al Gore and look who they ended up with. we did bomb Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and Iraq without batting an eye. but those eyes sure bat at a sex scandal or petty issues like this. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for years have demanded an apology to "all black folks" when a nasty statement or perceived insult happens. So, in this drumbeat for fairness and equality, wouldn't whites also be offended as a group by the same nasty rhetoric coming from a black person ? I think it's ridiculous we have these discussions because I don't think the viewpoints of the average person, regardless of race, are ever truly promoted. It's those who would use race that garner the attention. I honestly believe the average hardworking American just wants to get along and live their lives. We unfortunately live in an hyphenated America where each ethnic group clammers for superiority. It's too fractured to ever be United as it stands right now. I'm a Fan of rlunch My support for senator Obama has not been diminished in the slightest bit by this. He is a man of impeccable character and I find it really sad that he even had to respond --... |
preview.tinyurl.com/23hqyu -> www.huffingtonpost.com/barack-obama/on-my-faith-and-my-church_b_91623.html us: On My Faith and My Church The pastor of my church, Rev. Jeremiah Wright, who recently preached his last sermon and is in the process of retiring, has touched off a firestorm over the last few days. He's drawn attention as the result of some inflammatory and appalling remarks he made about our country, our politics, and my political opponents. Let me say at the outset that I vehemently disagree and strongly condemn the statements that have been the subject of this controversy. I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. Wright are so contrary to my own life and beliefs, a number of people have legitimately raised questions about the nature of my relationship with Rev. As I have written about in my books, I first joined Trinity United Church of Christ nearly twenty years ago. Wright as someone who served this nation with honor as a United States Marine, as a respected biblical scholar, and as someone who taught or lectured at seminaries across the country, from Union Theological Seminary to the University of Chicago. He also led a diverse congregation that was and still is a pillar of the South Side and the entire city of Chicago. It's a congregation that does not merely preach social justice but acts it out each day, through ministries ranging from housing the homeless to reaching out to those with HIV/AIDS. Wright preached the gospel of Jesus, a gospel on which I base my life. And the sermons I heard him preach always related to our obligation to love God and one another, to work on behalf of the poor, and to seek justice at every turn. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity or heard him utter in private conversation. When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments. Wright was on the verge of retirement, and because of my strong links to the Trinity faith community, where I married my wife and where my daughters were baptized, I did not think it appropriate to leave the church. All of the statements that have been the subject of controversy are ones that I vehemently condemn. They in no way reflect my attitudes and directly contradict my profound love for this country. Wright's retirement and the ascension of my new pastor, Rev. Otis Moss, III, Michelle and I look forward to continuing a relationship with a church that has done so much good. Wright's statements have pained and angered me, I believe that Americans will judge me not on the basis of what someone else said, but on the basis of who I am and what I believe in; on my values, judgment and experience to be President of the United States. I'm a Fan of LibNoodle2 Senator, Your words have touched our lives, lifted us. I think you can inspire us to work together, to be better, to rise. Please continue to say what you believe and I, for one, will continue to believe what you say. My daughters are young, like yours, and I am so excited for the prospect of public discourse between politicians to become more hopeful, so this next generation can dream. I am also hoping that somehow your dignity and demeanor will affect those in Congress. I'm a Fan of Yansher Dear Barack Thank you for taking the lead and trying to show us that you actually run your campaign the same way you live your life. The comments of your former pastor has no place in our America and I am comforted in knowing that you feel the same way. I'm a Fan of OwenScottIII This letter is not about race and extreme religious views. It's about being clear in your values and being accountable for your actions. Obama's grace in denouncing and condemning divisive and hostile statements and beliefs, even when those statements are made by someone he is close to and cares about.. Obama in spite of the sterling example he sets, maybe you should take a look at that. I'm a Fan of joclark I like that you've come out to denounce. But the problem is that once people hear it, they believe it and the damage is done. Our news cycles are so fast that quick responses like this help. I'm a Fan of riverhouse Sound and reasonable statement as is all of Barack Obama's actions and words. It is good to see leadership in action, to see a man able to discern right from wrong without being judgmental along political necessity. If only all our so called "leaders", such as Hillary Clinton and George Bush, could be so reasonable. Obama's sure confidence in himself and his sterling values are refreshing in these times of dirty politics, manipulations, false representations. Clearly Hannity and his friends in the MSM ( Russert , Politico) are trying to create a narrative that will not stick because is is sooooo untrue. Are they trying to say that you are a racist b/c of someone else's words. Are they trying to say you are racist against yourself since you are half white? Are they saying you are racist against the grandparents that raised you? It is crazy for them to think that people would believe that Obama is racist against himself! I'm a Fan of Karenina44 Dear Senator Obama -- I am truly sorry that it has come to this. Wright having been a mentor and I am sure filled a void in your life. Coming from the midwest, my church was often my extended family. And my pastor was very much a father figure, since I was raised by a single mother. So when that pastor, whom I loved like a father, whose theology I could never align myself died last month, I wept, because overall, he was truly a good man with a big heart. I'm a Fan of TerryOakland One of my best friends, someone who I hold in the highest regards, whom I know to be honest, generous, and altogether forthright is a practicing Catholic. His Pope has said some of the most ignorant, divisive, downright loathsome things through the years (along with prior Popes) that personally deeply offends me. Priests and bishops from his faith have done things (and covered up those things) that are horrifying. And yet, while he shares most (if not, in fact, more) of my displeasure with his church's leadership and policy, he remains faithful and continues to take communion every Sunday. I'm a Fan of kmdippenger I've read and heard an awful lot of prejudicial hateful comments from people who might just be claiming to be "good Christian folk". Senator Obama, the only statements I've heard by you are inspiring and based on the true spirit of what it means to be an American. I'm proud to be supporting you in this run to the Presidency. We need your leadership to help pull this country together. I'm a Fan of Amennyc It's unfortunate with all that is going on in this world.... If the American people are to uneducated to not see beyond their nose or this uncultured media, then so be it. The lost out with Al Gore and look who they ended up with. we did bomb Nagasaki, Hiroshima, and Iraq without batting an eye. but those eyes sure bat at a sex scandal or petty issues like this. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson for years have demanded an apology to "all black folks" when a nasty statement or perceived insult happens. So, in this drumbeat for fairness and equality, wouldn't whites also be offended as a group by the same nasty rhetoric coming from a black person ? I think it's ridiculous we have these discussions because I don't think the viewpoints of the average person, regardless of race, are ever truly promoted. It's those who would use race that garner the attention. I honestly believe the average hardworking American just wants to get along and live their lives. We unfortunately live in an hyphenated America where each ethnic group clammers for superiority. It's too fractured to ever be United as it stands right now. I'm a Fan of rlunch My support for senator Obama has not been diminished in the slightest bit by this. He is a man of impeccable character and I find it really sad that he even had to respond --... |