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2008/3/8-11 [Politics/Domestic/California] UID:49392 Activity:moderate
3/8     So here is a question: it's conventional widsom that CA and NY
        are Hillary States.  However, I dont really meet a lot of pro-Hill
        people ... but most of the people I encounter among whom this
        politics comes up are high incomes 30 somethings ... so not really
        Hillary constituency [menopausal women and economic losers and
        Hollywood insiders?] ... so does anybody here live in a heavily Hillary
        pocket of CA? If so, who and where is this crowd? Stockton? North
        Hollywood? Malibu? Palo Alto PTA?
        \_ You probably don't hang out with enough Asians or Latinos.
           \_ Asians above age 45 are afraid of/dont trust a Black man?
              There are a lot of younger, high incomes, liberal Asians in the
              Bay Area. Which Asians are you talking about?
              \_ Look at the demographic or by-county breakdown of Obama vs.
                 Hillary voting in CA, that's all I'm saying.  The by-county
                 breakdown is particularly interesting.
              \_ What does O's race have to do with it?  I thought only the
                 evil republicans were racists.  Please help me out here.
                 \_ Racism has nothing to do with party affiliation.  Does
                    that help?  ok tnx.
        \_ Do you know any women at all? Almost all the women I know are voting
           for Hillary, most of whom are in there 30's or above and have good
           educations and jobs. These women live in San Francisco and
           Riverside.
                \- do all the hillary women you know wear pantsuits?
                   i have talked the small number of hillary-women i know
                   out of supporting her by mocking/shaming them ... by
                   making them feel dumb or hypociritical. well at
                   least they publicly claimed to have switched.
           \_ FWIW, Obama won San Francisco county 52% to 44.5%:
              http://csua.org/u/kzw (latimes.com)
              She cleaned up in Riverside, however.
              In more recent elections, Obama has been splitting younger and
              educated women, however...only the older women have been
              sticking with her by big margins.
              FYI, all of the women I know voted for Obama with the exception
              of my mom.  No argument seems to persuade the older women out of
              the "But she's a woman" argument.
              \_ Right and since her support skews female it is obvious
                 that a majority or close to it of San Francisco women
                 voters voted for her.
                 \_ One more note on this - after a recount, Obama picked up
                    8 more delegates in CA when the vote was certified this
                    week.  This was not widely reported.  I'm not sure what
                    the "official" vote totals ended up looking like.
              \_ My mom (in her 60s) voted for Obama. Most women I have
                 talked to are in favor of HRC, though.
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