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2008/3/8-11 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:49389 Activity:nil 90%like:49388

3/8     Oops, looks like Obama may have actually won Texas
        http://csua.org/u/kzq  (npr)
        \_ That was expected, since Obama does so well in caucuses.  IIRC I
           heard that the Clinton campaign was trying to supress the reporting
           of the outcome of the caucuses so she could claim victory on the
           night of.
           \_ Why do we let republicans like you come on here to bash hillary?
              She's the smartest woman in the world and it's about time a
              woman ran this country.  Take your hate elsewhere.
              \- Sandra Day O'Conner is 10x smarter than Hillary.

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csua.org/u/kzq -> www.npr.org/blogs/news/2008/03/texas_twostep_leaving_dems_fla_1.htmlOlder Post Texas Two-Step Leaving Dems Flat-Footed The Clinton campaign may go to court. The Obama campaign wants to take its delegates and get out of town before sundown. The Texas Two-Step is overheating an already fired up Democratic presidential contest. The Newsblog mentioned this on Wednesday but there is a very good chance that winning the Texas primary might not mean that Sen. That because after the primary -- which she won 51-47 percent -- come the caucuses and it looks like Sen. But if the numbers in the caucus vote hold up, then Obama will win 37 more pledged delegates to Clinton's 30. So Obama would have 98 delegates and Clinton 95 and he would leave Texas with three more delegates that Clinton But wait, there's more. "The end result of the Texas caucuses was that attendees picked delegates. These delegates will then go on to attend a county convention in late March to caucus. Then, the delegates from the county convention must go to the state convention and hold another caucus. The whole Texas process will not be wrapped up until June." The Clinton camp is none too happy about this development and is threatening to take legal action because it said it won the state. The Obama campaign is trying to retroactively claim victory in a place which many news organizations had already reported that Clinton won. Seems that would make Howard Dean and the DNC's job all that much easier. Turn everything over to BIG federal government and eliminate the Democratic Party's voters completely. fred camorra call Sent by fred camorra call | 9:05 AM ET | 03-07-2008 Legal action? To do what -- ensure that she barely won the popular vote, or stop Obama from getting delegates the way it's always been done in Texas? Sent by KC in Lubbock | 9:29 AM ET | 03-07-2008 This is terrific news blunder. Before the voting on Tuesday, just about every pundit, including Hillary's husband, had framed the day so that if she didn't win both Texas and Ohio she likely couldn't win - that she'd probably have to quit. By falsely claiming she won Texas, mainstream news once again has egg on its face. But in so doing, they have allowed the entire campaign to shift. Once again, the news media's hurry and horse-race hurts us. It may have changed the result by what it did (or didn't do) right this week. I have the audacity to hope it gets center attention broadly. Sent by Aaron Boyson | 11:32 AM ET | 03-07-2008 Its a weird process to be sure - allowing voters to cast 2 votes for a single candidate. it is the process that the Democratic Party has adopted. Sent by Trey Hailey | 11:46 AM ET | 03-07-2008 This is no surprise, I heard a number of pundits say she might win both states, but not in delegates in Texas, because of the caucuses. She did win the popular vote by at least 3 percentage points, and that is significant, especially since Barack was out spending her 3 or 4 to 1 in ad ratio. Personally, I think caucuses are very undemocratic because most people cannot go to them, and they are "democracy by mob mentality." I know people who went to caucuses and thought Hillary was more qualified, and wanted to vote for her, but they felt "peer pressure" from their friends. Barack may be the "cool" candidate, but what our country needs right now is our most qualified candidate. A lot of Democrats are naive about who can actually win against Republicans. The reason why Superdelegates were created was because the party was tired of losing. Sent by Lauren | 1:28 PM ET | 03-07-2008 This is excellent news! It's like you just found out that you won the lottery and you went out shopping for your Ferrari only to find out later that it was all a big mistake. Obama should say, "Yes, Hillary and John McCain have the experience, the experience of making the biggest misjudgment in the history of mankind which resulted in over hundreds of thousands of deaths!" Killing for oil makes Bush and his accomplices the biggest murderers ranked up there with Hitler and PolPot! Wow, and to think the Republican Congress wanted to impeach Clinton for his lie. I love Republicans so honest and always morally correct! Sent by Smith | 6:44 AM ET | 03-08-2008 This means Hillary has to drop out right ? Sent by Bryan | 6:52 AM ET | 03-08-2008 Bottom line as a democrat, if billary wins the nomination, I will vote for CrazyCain before I let her get anywhere near the White House. Sent by Marcus | 7:10 AM ET | 03-08-2008 I feel like the Republicans are supporting both of these candidates wherever they are weak to divide and conquer the deomcrats for loss against McCain in the election. If I was a Republican, I'd be dying laughing right now at the first woman deadlocked against the first president in my opposition's party... Sent by James Vaughn | 7:29 AM ET | 03-08-2008 "The Clinton camp is none to happy about this development and is threatening to take legal action because it said it won the state." This is either poorly written or Hillary's campaign doesn't understand the law. Sent by seth | 7:52 AM ET | 03-08-2008 Super Delegates are important because the party leadership misses the days where candidates were decided in smoke filled back rooms by "those in the know". Saying that we need "experts" to choose our candidates is only one step away from suggesting that we need them to choose our president for us as well. Suggesting that the common citizen is not fit to make the decisions that will shape the possible future of our government is as insulting to the American legacy as Super Delegates and the Patriot Act. Sent by Geoff | 8:02 AM ET | 03-08-2008 The sad fact is, Hillary will do anything to win. She'll cozy up to the man who humiliated her multiple times. She'll run negative ads that McCain can run against either of them. When you start a campaign as the most divisive candidate run and when you don't manage to change that perception among the voters, you have only yourself to blame when we reach this inevitable situation. HRC has long since made the decided that she is willing to destroy the Democratic parties chances in 2008 to satisfy her own, personal ambition. I'm looking forward to the first books out of her campaign staff during the McCain years. Sent by Mr Judgment | 8:04 AM ET | 03-08-2008 "Superdelegates are important because we need experts. A lot of Democrats are naive about who can actually win against Republicans." That is absurd, Superdelegates are not about democracy at all! control the election Sent by Mitch | 8:09 AM ET | 03-08-2008 Texas is a caucus State. People turned out in record numbers this Primary for both the Caucus and Election. On a "Hilary" note, I don't think she can win against McCain. As much as this country doesn't need another neo-facist President, I'd rather cross the lines and vote Republican against Hilary. She has run a smear campaign, and is now being a poor loser here in Texas. These are not qualities of a professional, much less a President. Sent by Jay | 8:09 AM ET | 03-08-2008 The superdelegates are a bad idea all the way around. Not to mention the fact that some superdelegates are barely 18 years old themselves. org/wiki/Jason_Rae Is this kid really qualified to determine who will win against a Republican? Sent by Rodney | 8:17 AM ET | 03-08-2008 I attened a caucus in Texas and can tell you first hand that Sen. Clinton lost because her campaign didn't know how to compete in the primary and Sen. The Clinton campaing spent a ton of money on Mariaci bands and tacos rather than on the local field organization that was needed for the caucuses. When caucus time came, the Obama people knew what to do and the Clinton people did not. Claiming now that caucuses are unfair is just an attempt to spin away the fact of their incompetence. Sent by Greg Nudd - Austin | 8:31 AM ET | 03-08-2008 It's disingenuous to paint Hilary as the experienced leader and Obama the novice. I'm amazed at how long Obama's camp has let that one fester, but I suspect they'll be popping it soon enough. Sent by Matthew B | 8:50 AM ET | 03-08-2008 "That is high school," have a firm belief in your candidate and vote, c'mon. Regarding experience, it is pretty evidnet she dosen't have any experience. Ob...