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2008/3/4-7 [Science/Disaster, Science/GlobalWarming] UID:49338 Activity:low
3/4     Peak oil?
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/2nwllk  (wsj)
        \_ Why does the WSJ publish this liberal clap-trap? I believe in
           abiotic oil, which never runs out.
           \_ You'd think if abiotic oil (also known as "oil creationism")
              were true the USA wouldn't of hit a peak in 1970 since we
              pray so much in this country.
              \_ Obviously, we don't have enough faith and must
                 pray harder.                           -GWB
           \_ What science backs your belief of abiotic oil?  Also, even if
              true, the rate at which these abiotic processes replace oil
              matters.  If they are slower than we're pulling oil from the
              ground then there's still a peak oil problem, yes?
              \_ I am not mr. aboitic believer, but there is some science,
                 mostly from Russia, that supports a abiogenic theory for
                 the origin of petroleum. Wikipedia has a decent discussion:
                 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
                 There was an article on this in SciAM or Discover a few
                 years back that dicussed the abiogenic theory.
                 I agree that if we deplete petroleum faster than these
                 processes can replace it, the peak oil problem remains.
        \_ this guy's summary is basically taht 'more efficiant extraction
            techniques will let us get more oil out of exhausted fields'.  This
            is the endgame of peak oil, and only delays the peak a little bit.
            He's exaggerating how much the delay will be though. -ERic
            \_ "Just make the next generation deal with it" is a pretty small
               comfort, unless you are expecting The Rapture to bail humanity
               out.
           \_ He's saying the date is far enough out that other technologies
              will replace oil by then anyway, thus the old line he quotes
              about the stone age not ending from lack of stones.
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MORE OPINION The World Has Plenty of Oil By NANSEN G SALERI March 4, 2008; Page A17 Many energy analysts view the ongoing waltz of crude prices with the mystical $100 mark -- notwithstanding the dollar's anemia -- as another sign of the beginning of the end for the oil era. t the furthest out, it will be a crisis in 2008 to 2012," declares Matthew Simmons, the most vocal voice among the "neo-peak-oil" club. Tempering this pessimism only slightly is the viewpoint gaining ground among many industry leaders, who argue that daily production by 2030 of 100 million barrels will be difficult. In fact, we are nowhere close to reaching a peak in global oil supplies. Chad Crowe Given a set of assumptions, forecasting the peak-oil-point -- defined as the onset of global production decline -- is a relatively trivial problem. 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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abiogenic_petroleum_origin
Wernerian appreciation of basalts at times saw them as solidified oils or bitumen. While these notions have been disabused, the basic notion that petroleum is associated with magmatism has persisted. Alberta, Canada and concluded that no "source rocks" could form the enormous volume of hydrocarbons (estimated today 17 trillions barrels), and that therefore the most plausible explanation is abiotic deep petroleum. and these hydrocarbons can migrate out of the mantle, into the crust until they escape to the surface or are trapped by impermeable strata, forming petroleum reservoirs. Abiogenic theories reject the supposition that certain molecules found within petroleum, known as "biomarkers," are indicative of the biological origin of petroleum. edit Primordial deposits Thomas Gold's work was focused on hydrocarbon deposits coming from a primordial origin. Meteorites are believed to suggest the major composition of material from which the Earth was formed. If a large amount of this material is still within the Earth, it could have been leaking upward for billions of years. The thermodynamic conditions within the mantle would allow many hydrocarbon molecules to be at equilibrium under high pressure and high temperature. Although molecules in these conditions may disassociate, resulting fragments would be reformed due to the pressure. An average equilibrium of various molecules would exist depending upon conditions and the carbon-hydrogen ratio of the material. edit Creation within the mantle Russian researchers performed the above calculations of thermodynamic equilibrium and concluded that hydrocarbon mixes would be created within the mantle. One reaction not involving silicates which can create hydrogen is: Ferrous oxide + Water -> Magnetite + hydrogen 3FeO + H_2O \rarr Fe_3O_4 + H_2 The above reaction operates best at low pressures. At pressures greater than 5 GPa almost no hydrogen is created. He proposed that petroleum could be formed at high temperatures and pressures from inorganic carbon in the form of carbon dioxide, hydrogen and/or methane. This mechanism is supported by several lines of evidence which are accepted by modern scientific literature. This involves synthesis of oil within the crust via catalysis by chemically reductive rocks. olivine and usually a percentage of Fe-Ti spinel minerals. Most olivines also contain high nickel concentrations (up to several percent) and may also contain chromite or chromium as a contaminant in olivine, providing the needed transition metals. However, serpentinite synthesis and spinel cracking reactions require hydrothermal alteration of pristine peridotite-dunite, which is a finite process intrinsically related to metamorphism, and further, requires significant addition of water. so water-based reactions are dependent upon the local conditions. Oil being created by this process in intracratonic regions is limited by the materials and temperature. Olivine, composed of Forsterite and Fayalite metamorphoses into serpentine, magnetite and silica by the following reactions, with silica from fayalite decomposition (reaction 1a) feeding into the forsterite reaction (1b). Reaction 1a: Fayalite + water -> Magnetite + aqueous silica + Hydrogen 3Fe_2SiO_4 + 2H_2O \rarr 2Fe_3O_4 + 3SiO_2 + 2H_2 Reaction 1b: Forsterite + aqueous silica -> Serpentinite 3Mg_2SiO_4 + SiO_2 + 4H_2O \rarr 2Mg_3Si_2O_5(OH_4) When this reaction occurs in the presence of dissolved carbon dioxide (carbonic acid) at temperatures above 500 C Reaction 2a takes place. However, reaction 2 is just as likely, and supported by the presence of abundant talc-carbonate schists and magnesite stringer veins in many serpentinised peridotites; edit Carbonate reduction Methane has been formed in laboratory conditions via carbonate reduction at pressures and temperatures similar to that in the upper mantle, but a large amount of water was provided to the reaction in excess of that which is typical in mantle lithology. Likely reactions include: Reaction 6a: Ferrous oxide + Calcium carbonate + Water -> Hematite + Methane + Calcium oxide 8FeO + CaCO_3 + 2H_2O \rarr 4Fe_2O_3 + CH_4 + CaO and Reaction 6b: Ferrous oxide + Calcium carbonate + Water -> Magnetite + Methane + Calcium oxide 12FeO + CaCO_3 + 2H_2O \rarr 4Fe_3O_4 + CH_4 + CaO Methane formation is favored under 1,200 C at 1 GPa. Methane production is most favored at 500 C and pressures <7 GPa; higher temperatures are expected to lead to carbon dioxide and carbon monoxide production through a reforming equilibrium with methane. biogeochemical cycle diagram The synthesis of ethane and ethylene has been done at 800 C, using electric discharges in laboratory experiments. This experiment was in a hot gas, rather than hot mantle fluids. hydrogenation proceeds from carbon dioxide and hydrogen. Artificial catalytic materials often use rare materials, but some catalysts use somewhat more common materials such as silicon dioxide, aluminum oxide, iron or nickel. Methane production is most common although more complex products such as ethane, propene, propane, and butane have also appeared. The high temperatures needed for direct reactions are reduced to lower temperatures when a catalyst is present. Natural formations where such reactions take place continuously would require conditions which avoid such problems. 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