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2008/3/1-5 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:49312 Activity:low
3/1     holy shit Hillary Clinton is on Saturday Night Live! She must
        be desperate or something. I feel sorry for her.
        \_ Well yeah, her campaign was dead weeks ago.  Hail Mary!
        \_ Appearing on the Arsenio Hall Show worked for Bill.
           \_ Arsenio Hall Show circa 1992 wasn't nearly as bad (and unwatched)
              as the current SNL season.
              \- i think some of the OBAMA v HILARY answers on 60m tonight
                 were insightful as to why i personally hate hilary and
                 like obama more. and this is one question where i think my
                 reaction was somewhat representative of wide range of people:
                 when obama was asked about the "hussein smear", he stated
                 clearly that he was an xtian and the went the UNNECESSARY
                 AND POLITCALLY RISKY BUT PRINCIPLED extra mile to comment
                 on "not that claiming somebody is a muslim should be a slur".
                 now contract that wil hillary's answers to the episode where
                 she said weaslely things like "yes, to the best of my
                 knowledge obama is not a muslim" and then proceeded to talk
                 about herself ... about how "i know what it is to be smeared"
                 etc.
                 \_ *That* is why you hate her?  That's just typical political
                    dissembling.  There are many reasons to hate her, but that
                    is hardly the top of the list.  Anyway, in 48 hours it'll
                    over be "officially" over because she already lost a month
                    ago out in reality-world.
                    \- no that is just emblematic, jsut like i dont hate BUSHCO
                       because of his flippant, cowbowish comments, but that
                       too is emblematic. in the obama case, going the extra
                       mile and making the "pro muslim" commnt comes at a
                       (potental) cost.
                       \_ did some Desperate Hillarite delete this to keep
                          people from seeing what a fool she made of herself?
                          \- in same the spirit, see Tom Dashle [Obama] vs
                             Harold Ickes [Billary] on CROSE show.
                             HICKIES sounds like the anti-google people ...
                             "people who prefer searching on GOOG dont
                             realize our search engine is better" "do you
                             trust GOOG to tell you what to think?" "GOOG
                             is a vulnurable company built on one idea".
                             but of course maybe it is unfair to judge
                             them based on a guy who has been a professional
                             weasel since 1968. n.b. HICKES went to The Fraud.
                             Speaking of fraud: http://tinyurl.com/ypskol
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Save By MICHAEL LEWIS Published: September 21, 1997 On Jan. He had been fired on short notice from his job as President Clinton's deputy chief of staff and was not fully prepared for the ordeal of departure. Just getting out of the White House takes four or five hours, even for a man who dismisses red tape with obscenities as often and as gustily as Harold Ickes does. You must pay off your debts at the White House mess, return your cell phone, fill out forms, submit to security debriefings. Once he'd finished with the official checkout he trundled box after cardboard box down from his office into the parking lot. Janice Enright, his White House assistant, had parked her car in the first slot beside the West Wing exit, and Ickes filled it up to the brim, several times over. In all, he carried out about 50 boxes groaning with papers: news clippings, fund-raising documents, private notes scribbled during White House meetings, private memos to the President. In one pile were detailed notes about the Asian fund-raiser in chief John Huang. In another pile was a three-ring binder that contained a brief history of fund-raising for Presidential campaigns that Ickes had compiled for the President in the summer of 1995. This was done in response to newspaper articles that accused Clinton of selling access to the highest bidder. Sensing the President was embarrassed by the accusations and might need a fall guy, Ickes also sent Clinton his resignation The President declined to accept the resignation, and there begins the most newsworthy subplot in the friendship between Harold Ickes and Bill Clinton. Right up to Election Day, 1996, Ickes continued to offer access to the President in order to raise money for the Clinton campaign. So insatiable was the candidate, and so alarmingly gifted was Ickes, that he was among the first to catch the eye of the Senate Governmental Affairs Committee, headed by the Republican Fred Thompson, when it began its investigation earlier this year of campaign finance. Sometime in the next couple of weeks Ickes will be hauled before Thompson's committee as it continues its mind-numbing hearings. The Senators are likely to question him ad nauseam about John Huang, Buddhist nuns, Chinese conspiracies and the fine points of soft and hard money, and Ickes says he will do his best to take the Senators seriously. At this point they are no longer trying to get at the truth,'' he says. But just beneath the surface of the Senator's ponderous questions will lie the giddy hope that Harold Ickes -- the patron saint of Presidential ingratitude -- will turn on Bill Clinton and spill the beans. For 25 years Ickes, 58, has been a friend of Bill Clinton's. As the 1996 election approached Ickes helped guide his friend Jesse Jackson to the decision not to run, and then he put together the most wildly successful, and most successfully wild, money-raising operation ever conducted by the Democratic Party.