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| 2008/2/20-22 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:49198 Activity:kinda low |
2/20 Ah, so it's just Billary that's putting out the anti-Obama slimes eh?
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NmM2NDQ3ZWQ1YWM0Y2QyZTUxMDdkY2M2OTJlNGE5MWE
\_ Billary. Why must we use cutesy little names for people in
politics? The freepers do this. The DU/Kosians do this. We
don't need this on the motd.
\_ exactly which MOTD have you been reading where this doesn't
happen?
\- it think there is actually some smarts to names like
BUSHCO, BILARY etc. BUSHCO reflects: the whole CEO-
President idea, the corporate backgrounds of CHENEY and
RUMSFELD, and most relevantly today, their diffuse and
limited "liability". similar BILARY, the two-for-one,
the looming presence of Bill in the background etc.
[and of course ALGOR = robot].
\_ Almost every politician has a corporate background.
Hillary spent many years on the Walmart board and as a
corporate lawyer/partner but we don't call her HILLARYCO.
\- if you think your example are comparable, you dont
know what you are talking about ... and you clearly
think it is comparable ...
\_ If you could explain why then we'd have something
to discuss instead of just stating your opinion
as fact.
The two-for-one BILLARY is 'cute' but again unnecessary
for what is supposed to be a group of intelligent and
aware people who shouldn't need that constant reminder.
I don't care which party or what beliefs any of these
people have. I just find all the little grade school
names silly and for me they detract from what might
otherwise be a more intelligent discussion.
\_ I didn't say it doesn't happen here. I said we don't need it
and can/should do better. I like to think that the typical
motd poster is smarter and can make a better point than
resorting to childish name calling like a freeper or kosian.
\_ AssUMe.
\_ I like how none of you even commented on the ridiculous article
this link points to, which basically argues that "since Obama's
mother was Jewish, and his dad was black, and since I went to a
school where any couple like that were DIRTY COMMIES, Obama must
also be a COMMIE."
\_ You have bad reading comprehension. It didn't claim his mother
was Jewish. But what's there to comment about? It's just some
blog entry.
\_ Sorry, wasn't really interested in the article as much as the
discussion it generated. |
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| corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=NmM2NDQ3ZWQ1YWM0Y2QyZTUxMDdkY2M2OTJlNGE5MWE this article by Cliff Kincaid of Accuracy in Media, which I regard as factual -- with all that that implies -- the questions about Obama's background that should have come naturally never quite rose to the surface of my mind. I grew up in liberal circles in New York City -- a place to which people who wished to rebel against their upbringings had gravitated for generations. And yet, all of my mixed race, black/white classmates throughout my youth, some of whom I am still in contact with, were the product of very culturally specific unions. They were always the offspring of a white mother, (in my circles, she was usually Jewish, but elsewhere not necessarily) and usually a highly educated black father. And how had these two come together at a time when it was neither natural nor easy for such relationships to flourish? But, for a white woman to marry a black man in 1958, or 60, there was almost inevitably a connection to explicit Communist politics. But the Kincaid article referenced above makes a very convincing case that Obama's family, later, (mid 1970s) in Hawaii, had close relations with a known black Communist intellectual. And, according to what Obama wrote in his first autobiography, the man in question -- Frank Marshall Davis -- appears to have been Barack's own mentor, and even a father figure. Of course, since the Soviet Union itself no longer exists, it's an open question what it means practically to have been politically mentored by an official Communist. Political correctness was invented precisely to prevent the mainstream liberal media from persuing the questions which might arise about how Senator Obama's mother, from Kansas, came to marry an African graduate student. But what else was going on around them that made it feasible? Before readers level cheap accusations of racism -- let's recall that the very question of interracial marriage only became a big issue later in the 1960s. The notion of a large group of mixed race Americans became an issue during and after the Vietnam War. Even the civil-rights movement kept this culturally explosive matter at arm's distance. It was, of course, an explicit tactic of the Communist party to stir up discontent among American blacks, with an eye toward using them as the leading edge of the revolution. To be sure, there was much to be discontented about, for black Americans, prior to the civil-rights revolution. To their credit, of course, most black Americans didn't buy the commie line -- and showed more faith in the possibilities of democratic change than in radical politics, and the results on display in Moscow. Time for some investigative journalism about the Obama family's background, now that his chances of being president have increased so much. |