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2008/2/7-11 [Computer/Companies/Google] UID:49093 Activity:kinda low 92%like:49091
2/8     If you can't innovate then buy. FIFTY acquisitions later
        and NOTHING to show for it.
        http://preview.tinyurl.com/2hw3d8 (fixunix.com)
        \_ Most of these seem to have been implemented or integrated into
           Google offerings; why do you say there's nothing to show for it?
           Among the acquisitions:
           Dejanews (became Google Groups)
           Blogger
           Picasa
           Various mapping software used in Maps/Earth
           Various advertising firms (including Doubleclick)
           Various search firms
           YouTube
           Apps (Writely, SketchUp)

           Which of those is "nothing"?
             -tom
           \_ yawn. They are all nothing. In fact, other than patent search
              and gmail imap I am hard pressed to think of single thing
              googhell does that is actually any good. And the whole text
              ads thing is TOTALLY annoying. If only adblock plus could block
              them.
              \_ Google maps.
              \_ so which search engine do you use? what mapping service?
                 \_ I use yahoo or ask for search and yahoo or mapquest
                    for maps. I esp. like the !amazon [search term] feature
                    that yahoo has.
                    \_ OK, you're a troll, thanks for clarifying that.  -tom
                       \_ I am not a troll. I really think googhell is leem
                          and I haven't used googhell search for years (except
                          for patent search). I still use my gmail account,
                          but only as a throwaway email for forums signins.
                          I wouldn't trust googhell with my personal email.
                          And what the heck is up with all the cookies they
                          try to set. Nothing works on their sites if you
                          block cookies. Also extra leem. I have to use a
                          separate browser just to go to googhell and then
                          make sure to delete all the cookies after.
                          \_ are you 12 years old?  -tom
                             \_ no
           \_ Here's a better question. What value-added has Google brought
              to the table?
              \_ Groups: Clearly added value.  Usenet is dead.
                 Blogger: Eh, probably about the same.  Adds value by
                 integrating, single sign-on.
                 Picasa: See Blogger.
                 Mapping/Earth: Huge, huge value add.
                 Ad firms/search: Hard to tell, it's all proprietary on the
                 back end. But clearly they're doing something right.
                 YouTube: Haven't changed it much yet.
                 Apps: Have gained much more acceptance than they ever
                 would have as independent entities.  Technology still
                 has a way to go.
                 Overall, I'd say Google has done a better than average job
                 of integrating acquisitions.  -tom
                 \_ Groups - leem, use gnus if you need news
                    Blogger - even leemer than groups
                    Picasa - also leem (flickr is better if you like that
                             sort of thing)
                    Mapping/Earth - who cares? you can get directions that
                                    are same/better from mapquest, yahoo, &c.
                    Ads - did I mention I HATE ADS
                    YouTube - Okay this is cool, but only b/c it is the
                              easiest way to watch Top Gear episodes. If
                              there were no pirated Top Gear episodes on
                              YouTube, it would be leem as well.
                    Apps - yawn, if you need word processing use word (or
                           if you hate M$ use Pages, if you can't use Pages
                           stop being a dork and get a mac)
                           if you hate M$ use Pages, if you don't have
                           Pages, stop being a dork and get a mac)
                    Patent Search - Reasonably k3wl but only b/c the PTO
                                    can't get its act together and put up
                                    a decent website. Of course, to make
                                    this really useful they should put the
                                    file history online and any case history
                                    re validity/invalidity
                    \_ you're an idiot.
                    \_ You're "leem". I'm not a huge google fan either,
                       but at least I'll admit a few of their properties
                       are the best around.
                       \_ But most of them, like YouTube, are pretty much
                          the work of other companies. How did YouTube
                          change post-Google acquisition?
                          \_ Even if they do minimal integration like
                             accepting Google Account credentials, the net
                             effect is to lock people into the Google
                             ecosystem, if you will. They can also stick
                             ads on everything as usual, and there's a certain
                             cross-advertising synergy. Yes, that doesn't
                             necessarily improve the actual service, but two
                             obvious ways of improving Youtube are better
                             quality video (which requires huge storage and
                             bandwidth, with G presumably has), and better
                             searchability (which is supposedly G's forte).
                             I think they are working on both of these, but
                             I'm not really monitoring their progress.
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This is a discussion on Google - If you can't innovate then buy. within the Linux forums, part of the Operating Systems category; Most of these seem to have died the minute Google touched them. FIFTY acquisitions later and Micoshaft Corporation Has NOTHING to show for it. Micoshaft Asstroturfer Cletus Spencer flatly wrote on behalf of Micoshaft Corporation: > > Here's a list of Google Acquisitions. What, if anything here has been a > "success" for Google. Most of these seem to have died the minute Google > touched them. So are you telling is micoshaft corporation is now so afraid of google that they have commissioned asstroturfers like you to go piddle in Linux newsgroups with anti-google slogans? FIFTY acquisitions laterand Micoshaft Corporation Has NOTHING to show for it. On Jan 11, 5:14*pm, 7 wrote: > Micoshaft Asstroturfer Cletus Spencer flatly wrote on behalf of Micoshaft > Corporation: > > > > > > > > > Here's a list of Google Acquisitions. What, if anything here has been a > > "success" for Google. Most of these seem to have died the minute Google > > touched them. The only difference between Google and Infoseek is that Google shows you how fast it found the results. Raise your hand if you had serious trouble finding things with a search engine before Google. FIFTY acquisitions later and Micoshaft Corporation Has NOTHING to show for it. On 2008-01-12, cc wrote: > On Jan 11, 5:14*pm, 7 wrote: >> Micoshaft Asstroturfer Cletus Spencer flatly wrote on behalf of Micoshaft >> Corporation: >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Here's a list of Google Acquisitions. What, if anything here has been a >> > "success" for Google. Most of these seem to have died the minute Google >> > touched them. Raise your hand if you had serious > trouble finding things with a search engine before Google. Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while I used dogpile. omer wrote: > Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly: > >> Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while >> I used dogpile. The only >> reason I use google now is pretty much habbit. There page loaded the >> fastest on my old dial-up connection > > I stopped using Yahoo the day they changed their front page from > a simple search box to a "portal" site infested by advertising. omer wrote: > >> Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly: >> >>> Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while >>> I used dogpile. The only >>> reason I use google now is pretty much habbit. There page loaded the >>> fastest on my old dial-up connection >> >> I stopped using Yahoo the day they changed their front page from >> a simple search box to a "portal" site infested by advertising. Whichever way you cut it, Google is a damn impressive service. omer wrote: >> >>> Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly: >>> >>>> Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while >>>> I used dogpile. The only >>>> reason I use google now is pretty much habbit. There page loaded the >>>> fastest on my old dial-up connection >>> >>> I stopped using Yahoo the day they changed their front page from >>> a simple search box to a "portal" site infested by advertising. It's generally my first port of call, but its ubiquity is not always a totally good thing, IMO I don't say Google is evil or anything, but naturally, once they're pretty much everywhere as they are now, everything tends to go the Google way. I prefer a bit more in the way of balance and variety - it's healthier in the long run. omer wrote: >>> >>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly: >>>> >>>>> Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while >>>>> I used dogpile. The only >>>>> reason I use google now is pretty much habbit. There page loaded the >>>>> fastest on my old dial-up connection >>>> >>>> I stopped using Yahoo the day they changed their front page from >>>> a simple search box to a "portal" site infested by advertising. It's generally my first port of call, but its ubiquity is not > always a totally good thing, IMO I don't say Google is evil or anything, > but naturally, once they're pretty much everywhere as they are now, > everything tends to go the Google way. I prefer a bit more in the way of > balance and variety - it's healthier in the long run. I have plugged google into emacs and have my "google bar" on Iceweasel. I simply have not enough ethics to bother to use another search engine. omer wrote: >>>> >>>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly: >>>>> >>>>>> Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while >>>>>> I used dogpile. The only >>>>>> reason I use google now is pretty much habbit. There page loaded the >>>>>> fastest on my old dial-up connection >>>>> >>>>> I stopped using Yahoo the day they changed their front page from >>>>> a simple search box to a "portal" site infested by advertising. It's generally my first port of call, but its ubiquity is not >> always a totally good thing, IMO I don't say Google is evil or anything, >> but naturally, once they're pretty much everywhere as they are now, >> everything tends to go the Google way. I prefer a bit more in the way of >> balance and variety - it's healthier in the long run. I have plugged google > into emacs and have my "google bar" on Iceweasel. I simply have not > enough ethics to bother to use another search engine. People are mainly too lazy to seek an alternative, even when it may be better, or at the bvery least just as good. omer wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Verily I say unto thee, that Tom Shelton spake thusly: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hmmm, I used to use yahoo and altavista a lot - oh, and for a while >>>>>>> I used dogpile. The only >>>>>>> reason I use google now is pretty much habbit. There page loaded the >>>>>>> fastest on my old dial-up connection >>>>>> >>>>>> I stopped using Yahoo the day they changed their front page from >>>>>> a simple search box to a "portal" site infested by advertising. It's generally my first port of call, but its ubiquity is not >>> always a totally good thing, IMO I don't say Google is evil or anything, >>> but naturally, once they're pretty much everywhere as they are now, >>> everything tends to go the Google way. I prefer a bit more in the way of >>> balance and variety - it's healthier in the long run. I have plugged google >> into emacs and have my "google bar" on Iceweasel. I simply have not >> enough ethics to bother to use another search engine. People are mainly too lazy to seek an alternative, even when it > may be better, or at the bvery least just as good. The question is, while we're being serious for a change, does better mean it's required? But does Haridresser Girl need it to drive to her Salon. It does not however have superior desktop and gaming SW. People want what they are used to and what runs the SW they need. For someone who ONLY browses the web and uses email, yes, they COULD use Linux. Contrary to the lies spread in here, XP does not BSOD every 10 minutes. And as soon as people here start being honest then maybe, just maybe, other will start to listen to them.