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2008/1/25-2/2 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:49017 Activity:nil
1/25    Looks like Giuliani is out
        http://www.pollster.com/blogs
        \_ Likely, but remember polls are worth absolutely nothing.
        \_ Giuliani's strategy is to lose in every state and then declare
           this year is "opposite year"
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Take a look at the results of eight different polls released in the last few days. png 1) "Undecided" voters -- Obviously, the differences in the undecided percentage are about much more than the random sampling variation that gives us the so-called "margin of error," but they are surprisingly common. Differences in question wording, context, survey mode and interviewer technique can explain much of the difference. In fact, variations in the undecided percentage are usually the main sources of "house effect" differences among pollsters. The key issue is that many voters are less than completely certain about how they will vote and will hesitate when confronted by a pollster's trial heat question. How the pollster handles that hesitation determines the percentage that ultimately get recorded as undecided. First, their trial-heat question, as reproduced in an online report, appears to prompt for "undecided" as one of the four choices. And just before the vote question, they asked another question which probably suggests to respondents that "undecided" is a common response: Q1. Thinking about the 2008 presidential election, which of the following best describes your thoughts on this contest? They try to word their questions, train their interviewers or structure their automated calls in a way to push voters toward expressing a preference. Most pollsters include an explicit follow-up to those who say they are uncertain, asking which way they "lean." The pollsters that typically report the lowest undecided percentages have probably trained their interviewers to push especially hard for an answer. And SurveyUSA, the pollster with the smallest undecided in South Carolina (1%), typically inserts a pause in their automated script, so that respondents have to wait several seconds before hearing they can "press 9 for undecided." 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Kaus) assumes that respondents alter or hide their preferences to avoid a sense of "social discomfort" with the interviewer. Without an interviewer, there should be little or no effect. In this case the difference seems to be mostly about the undecided percentage, which is lower for the IVR surveys. In the most recent surveys, the three IVR pollsters report a smaller undecided percentage (7%) than the live interviewer pollsters (17%). Some say voters are more willing to cast a "secret ballot" without an interviewer involved, while others argue that those willing to participate in IVR polls tend to be more opinionated. If the Bradley/Wilder effect is operating, we would expect to see it on surveys that use live interviewers, but in this case, the lack of an interviewer seems to work in Obama's favor. He leads Clinton by an average of 17 points on the IVR polls (44% to 27%, with 19% for Edwards), but by only 9 points on the interviewer surveys (37% to 28%, with 17% for Edwards). tell us their unweighted Democratic likely voter sample amounted to 33% the adults they interviewed), none of the pollsters have reported incidence data. So some of the variation in results may come from the tightness of the screen, but we have no way to know for certain. Three of the South Carolina pollsters (SurveyUSA, ARG and Rasmussen) typically use a random-digit dial (RDD) technique that samples from all landline phones. They have to use screen questions to select likely Democratic primary voters. As least two (PPP and Clemson) drew samples from lists of registered votes and used the records on the lists to narrow their sampled universe to those they knew had a past history of participating in primaries. 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We'll know much more about how voters decided by Saturday night. automated survey in South Carolina (conducted 1/24) finds: * 595 Likely Democratic Primary Voters ( 4%) 44 Obama 24 Clinton 19 Edwards 14 undecided Among a subsample of African-Americans (51% of the sample), Obama leads Clinton 67% to 13%. conducted 1/19 through 1/22 by Ron Lester & Associates) finds: * 600 Likely Democratic Primary Voters ( 29%) 37 Obama 27 Clinton 15 Edwards 22 Don't Know/Not Sure Among a subsample of African-Americans, Obama leads Clinton (53% to 21%). tracking surveys of South Carolina (conducted 1/22 through 1/24) finds: * 811 Likely Democratic Primary Voters ( 34%) 38 Obama 25 Clinton 21 Edwards 0 Kucinich 0 Gravel 5 Someone else 7 Not sure Since the beginning of their tracking survey (conducted 1/20 through 1/22), Obama has moved from 43% to 38%, Edwards from 15% to 21%, while Clinton remains at 25%. South Carol...