1/7     So I don't get it. San Francisco is listed as a major world city,
        but San Jose is not even listed! What is wrong with these idiots,
        don't they realize that San Francisco is just a suburb to the mighty,
        much more important metropolis of San Jose???
        http://www.csua.org/u/ken
        \_ http://appleorangescale.com/?wd0=san%20francisco&wd1=san%20jose
           Indisputable Google proof that San Francisco >>>>> San Jose.
           Accept this as fact!                 -urbanite
        \_ San Jose is a dump! Los Angeles is a world class city and is
           way better than San Jose.    -suburb lover w an Accord hybrid
        \_ ObSanFranciscoSucksLess
        \_ I know this is a troll, but ... Let's compare the number of truly
           exceptional restaurants, buildings, museums, schools, etc., in
           San Francisco vs. San Jose.
           \_ Plus size of downtown, GG bridge.  And the San Jose
           \_ Plus size of downtown, GG Bridge.  And the San Jose
              Int'l Airport didn't actually have international flights until a
              few years ago.
              \_ What does the GG bridge have to do with anything?
                 \_ GG Bridge is a tourist attraction.  People usually
                    associate it with SF not SJ.
                    \_ So what? Mount Rushmore is associated with South
                       Dakota. Disnleyland is associated with Anaheim. I don't
                       Dakota. Disneyland is associated with Anaheim. I don't
                       follow here.
                       \_ I don't know about Mount Rushmore.  Yes Disneyland is
                          in Anaheim, but to the international tourists it is
                          associated with LA instead of some place called
                          in Anaheim not LA, but to the international tourists
                          it is associated with LA instead of some place called
                          Anaheim.
                          \_ Point is that landmarks are landmarks and can
                             be in a major city, a suburb, or the boonies.
                             \_ Point is that it's not about where the
                                landmarks are, but about what their perceived
                                associations are.  Disneyland is mistakenly
                                associated with LA, which, among other ways,
                                boosted LA's status.
                                Number of Google search results:
                                "Disneyland LA":          667000
                                "Disneyland Los Angeles": 557000
                                "Disneyland Anaheim":     211000
                                \_ Just because people are uninformed
                                   doesn't mean anything. You missed my
                                   point entirely, which is that the
                                   presence of absence of a landmark makes
                                   presence or absence of a landmark makes
                                   no commentary on the surrounding area.
                                   As an example consider Mt. Rushmore.
        \_ Ancient history. SF was the most important city in CA in the
           late 1800s. It's hard for people to let go. It won't happen
           overnight. SF is living on reputation, but the reality is that
           over the last 30 years San Jose has contributed as much or more
           to SF's reputation as SF itself. The number of people who fly
           into SJ for business who never even see SF is growing. SF will
           of course always be a tourist destination because it's scenic.
        \_ San Jose has no view. It's far more entertaining to drive
           your relatives around in San Francisco than it is in San
           Jose.  You get the Golden Gate Bridge, the bay, pier 39,
           etc. What do you get in San Jose?  Office buildings.
           Enlighten me, really, because if there's something
           interesting besides night life, I am all ears. Me and my
           wife could use some local sight seeing.
           \_ We're not talking about the place with the best view or best
              tourist spot. I love driving around San Simeon for the
              views, but that doesn't mean anything.
           \_ San Jose has night life?
              \_ What, you've never heard of a LAN party? -!pp
              \_ Lots of hiphop clubs. Los Gatos has a good bar scene.
              \_ Sure.  There are plenty of liquor stores with porn, and
                 lots of places to rent video games.  It's paradise.