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2007/12/5-7 [Politics/Domestic/RepublicanMedia] UID:48751 Activity:high
12/5    Fox News just pretends bombshell NIE report doesn't exist
        http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/13816.html
        \_ ^reportA^estimate
        \_ ^report^estimate
         \_ Uhh, no, it's a report.  It might not be right (although
            frankly I trust it a lot more than some anonymous motder)
            but it is still a report.
            \_ NIE not NIR (NI estimate not NI report
             \_ Its a report.  Called the NIE.
            \_ And Evolution's just a Theory!
            \+_ War sells newspapers.
        \_ I gotta say, the NIE report should be pretty big news.
        \_ It was only July that at least one of the guys who signed off on
           this report said Iran was working hard and getting close to
           a working nuclear weapon.  What's the new info in such a short
           period of time?  And why do we believe this report and not the
           numerous previous reports that say otherwise?  Why do we believe
           any of these reports when the Iraq WMD reports were so wrong?
           And these are the same people who completely missed the fall of
           the Berlin Wall and Soviet Union.  I'll read about it in a few
           years looking back.  None of these guys know wth they're talking
           about.
           \_ When was the last time they _under_estimated someone's military
              potential/intentions? I think it's safe to take them as a very
              extreme viewpoint and assume the truth is less dangerous than
              they propose.
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Permalink Last night, Republican presidential hopeful Mike Huckabee conceded he hadn't heard a word about the National Intelligence Estimate on Iran, and the conclusions that Iran's nuclear-weapons program was shut down more than four years ago. There are a variety of theories as to how a leading presidential candidate could be this uninformed, but I've got a new one: maybe he only watches Fox News. Iran: The Ticking Bomb" -- would kind of coverage would this week's news receive? I focused on Fox News' four prime-time political shows: Special Report with Brit Hume, The Big Story (John Gibson), The O'Reilly Factor, and Hannity & Colmes. I then checked Monday's transcripts, reflecting the news the day the NIE conclusions were announced, and Tuesday's transcripts, following the president's press conference on the NIE. On Monday, the day the NIE conclusions surprised the world, three of the four Fox News programs made no mention of the story at all. The exception with Special Report with Brit Hume, which featured a discussion between Hume, conservative media personality Fred Barnes, conservative media personality Mort Kondracke, and conservative media personality Charles Krauthammer. If they find out how to reprocess uranium, it's a short step from that to a nuclear program." Barnes argued, "Well, look, this is not a case for diplomacy. And Krauthammer concluded that intelligence officials might be wrong. And there are good guesses, and they describe this latest thing as they have high confidence. After these gripping news items, John Gibson asked, "We've got the IAEA saying they're not trying to make one. We have got Ahmadinejad saying we just cascaded 3,000 centrifuges, we're on our way. 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On December 5th, 2007 at 3:12 pm, editor said: FWIW, on Monday when I first heard this, I did a Google search and the second article listed was from Fox News. It's not that they didn't cover it, it's that they spun it with fear, as usual: The US intelligence community has concluded with "high confidence" that Iran halted its nuclear weapons development program in the fall of 2003 under international pressure, but is continuing to enrich uranium, and could be capable of developing a weapon as early as late 2009. Iran NIE Petunias on December 5th, 2007 at 5:21 pm Leave a Reply Name (required) Mail (will not be published) (required) Website The following tags are allowed in comments: <a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <strong> Submit Comment In order to help us keep comment spam to a minimum, please answer the following question: What color is an orange?