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11/14 the kholes on Fox News and http://foxnews.com are pumping this story a a lot today: http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311644,00.html without mentioning the 250+ Marines who died in this bombing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing What the hell is wrong with people? \_ Shut up and eat your Freedom Fries. \_ Okay, I'll bite. What is a 'khole'? \_ If you do a bunch of ketamine, you temporarily go into this disassociative zone known as a 'k hole'. It's hard to describe, think of it as being a 2 dimensional being in a 3 dimensional world. That's pretty close. \_ And then Carl Sagan appears. |
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| www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,311644,00.html us More active members of the military died during two years of peacetime in the early 1980s than died during a two-year period of war in Iraq and Afghanistan, according to a government report. The Congressional Research Service, which compiled war casualty statistics from the Revolutionary War to present day conflicts, reported that 4,699 members of the US military died in 1981 and '82 -- a period when the US had only limited troop deployments to conflicts in the Mideast. That number of deaths is nearly 900 more than the 3,800 deaths during 2005 and '06, when the US was fully committed to large-scale military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan. The CRS, which is the public policy research arm of Congress, issued its findings in the June report "American War and Military Operations Casualties: Lists and Statistics." com, in re-examining the findings, found that -- surprising as it may be -- there were more active duty deaths in some years of peacetime than there were in some years of wartime. Military analysts say the current decrease in military casualties, even during a time of war, is due to a campaign by the Armed Forces to reduce accidents and improve medical care on the battlefield. "It's safer to be in the military because your accidental death rate has gone down; "Getting killed on the battlefield is one way that people in the military wind up dying, but it's not the main way." According to the raw figures, of the 2,380 members of the military who died during active duty in 1981, 1,524 were killed in accidents, 145 by homicide, 457 by illness and 241 from self-inflicted wounds. of that number, 632 died from accidents, 739 from hostile action, 49 from homicide, 281 from illness, 150 from self-inflicted wounds and 72 whose causes of death were still pending. Eleven deaths in '81 and 19 deaths in '05 were classified as "undetermined." "Let's not somehow pretend or try to convey the false impression that being at war is being safer than being at peace, of course not," said Michael O'Hanlon, a senior fellow at the Brookings Institute. "If we stopped these wars we would cut back our annual military fatalities by close to a thousand people, and that's just simple arithmetic." The numbers, which outline active-duty deaths from 1980 to 2006, show a steady decline in accidents. Experts attribute that decline to campaigns to curb off-duty partying and drunk driving, as well as offering better training before putting troops in hazardous situations. the total number of active servicemen and women decreased from a 1986 high of 218 million troops to the 2006 level of 138 million. "You don't hear the classic war movie cry for 'Medics, medics,' because everybody's a medic to a certain extent," he said. The death-to-wounded ratio has also improved, the study found. Nearly 8 people are wounded for every one who dies in Operation Iraqi Freedom versus the 1 death to 17 wound ratio found during World War II. And the combined totals for illness, homicide, accident and suicide trump troop casualty numbers, Pike said. "Previously in a war, if you were wounded, you were in big trouble," Pike said. "And now if you're wounded, you're probably going to make it." But Johnson said it's important to look beyond the raw data. "The thing that distresses me about it, is it's raw numbers. And while that's interesting, it doesn't reflect percentages, which might be more instructive," he said. |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1983_Beirut_barracks_bombing United States Marine Corps, had set up its local headquarters. The truck had been substituted for a hijacked water delivery truck. The truck turned onto an access road leading to the Marines' compound and circled a parking lot. barbed wire fence around the parking lot, passed between two sentry posts, crashed through a gate and barreled into the lobby of the Marine headquarters. rules of engagement, which made it very difficult to respond quickly to the truck. By the time the two sentries had locked, loaded, and shouldered their weapons, the truck was already inside the building's entry way. Eric Hammel in his history of the Marine landing force, "The force of the explosion initially lifted the entire four-story structure, shearing the bases of the concrete support columns, each measuring fifteen feet in circumference and reinforced by numerous one and three quarter inch steel rods. A massive shock wave and ball of flaming gas was hurled in all directions." French La 3me Compagnie, 1er Rgiment de Chasseurs Parachutistes (3rd Company of the 1st Parachute Infantry Regiment), 6 km away in the Ramlet al Baida area of West Beirut. Another suicide bomber drove his truck down a ramp into the 'Drakkar' building's underground parking garage and detonated his bomb, leveling the eight-story building. Rescue and clean-up crews search for casualties following the barracks bombing in Beirut on October 23, 1983. Photo by SSgt Randy Gaddo, USMC Rescue and clean-up crews search for casualties following the barracks bombing in Beirut on October 23, 1983. Caspar Weinberger aborted the mission, reportedly because of his concerns that it would harm US relations with other Arab nations. Besides a few shellings, there was no serious retaliation for the Beirut bombing from the Americans. In December 1983, US aircraft attacked Syrian targets in Lebanon, but this was in response to Syrian missile attacks on planes, not the barracks bombing. Hezbollah was now seen by many as "the spearhead of the sacred Muslim struggle against foreign occupation". Amal militia leader Nabih Berri, who had previously supported US mediation efforts, asked the US and France to leave Lebanon and accused the US and France of seeking to commit 'massacres' against the Lebanese and creating a 'climate of racism' against the Shia." Joint Hearing before the Subcommittee on International Terrorism and Nonproliferation and the Subcommittee on the Middle East and Central Asia of the Committee on Internation Relations. House of Representatives, 109th Congress (September 28, 2006). |