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2007/11/14-21 [Computer/SW/OS/OsX, Computer/SW/OS/FreeBSD, Computer/SW/OS/Linux] UID:48636 Activity:moderate
11/14   Any reason I should format my disk in JFS or XFS or REISERFS
        instead of good old EXT3 (this is Linux, obviously) ?
        \_ XFS supports larger filesystems than ext3, which may or may not
           matter to you.
           \_ The "larger" filesystem quantifier is no longer big of an
               \_ What if I really do want to get rid of her?

              issue, especially if you're using 64-bit OS. But if you're
              working with large files, this is where xfs shines. ReiserFS
              is still better at handling many small files. I have no
              experience with JFS. Last I used ReiserFS, it had no
              dump/restore tools, which may or may not matter to you.
        \_ if you go with resierfs, your wife might go missing and you get
           the blame for her disappearance!
           \_ Don't kill your wife and it won't be a problem.
               \_ What if I really do want to get rid of her?
                  \_ Divorce is less risky than murder.
        \_ I still haven't found a fs format that plays well with mac / windows
           and unix all at the same time.  Fat32 is a weak kludge ,
           and it won't handle files larger than 1 gig i believe.
           \_ There's now an ext2/ext3 driver availiable for Windows.  I use
           \_ There's now an ext2/ext3 driver available for Windows.  I use
              that for my shared drive now rather than Fat32. I don't know
              about Mac.
              \_ is it reliable?  do you trust it?
                 \_ Well, I haven't had any trouble with it.  Of course, I'm
                    not doing anything all that important either, and it's all
                    backed up.  It's not the most user friendly thing in the
                    world.  It doesn't automount the ext2 drives, for example.
                    Here's the link. http://www.fs-driver.org
              \_ Did zfs end up in Leopard, or was it pulled before release?
                 There are slow-but-working zfs support for linux and windows,
                 as well as ports to freebsd and of course, opensolaris.
        \_ ext3 does not support online defragmentation.
        \_ We looked at all four file systems a few years back and ext3 was
           the most reliable by far. JFS is a distant second, but there are
           still cases in the code where a power outage at the wrong time will
           lead to massive data loss. XFS does not support errors during
           journal replay (by design) and thus is TOTALLY UNSUITABLE for any
           data you really care about (again, by design). The last I looked,
           ReiserFS had some fundamental errors / race conditions in journal
           replay. When it is my data, I use ext3. --twohey
           \- i'm curious how much of your finding were things flawed-by-
              design vs. implementations bugs [which could have been fixed
              since], as well as if you were just looking at the potential for
              irrecoverable data loss, or worst case performance issues
              [like some fs+hardware combos seem to have problems with
              high metarate operation rates, or concurrency etc]. anyway,
              if you have some ptrs to papers you think have still relevant
              results, i'd be interested. [btw, have you seen ibm gpfs?
              that fs blew me away from day 1]. --psb
              \_ How much is gpfs?
                 \- One Million Dollars, Mr. Bond.
              \_ It has been about 5 years but XFS+Linux was horrible at that
                 time.  We lost a lot of data on Linux XFS.  SGI XFS was like
                 magic, though.  We brutally punished an SGI box and it kept
                 on ticking.
           \_ You might want to try Veritas' VxFS.  They give it away with
              VxVM in a combination called "Storage Foundation Basic".  I think
              they limit the number of file systems you can use in the free
              version.
              \_ Thanks for pointing out the freebie version.
              \_ I've always wondered about VxFS, but never had a chance to
                 get my hands on it. What are some of the advanced features
                 it provides over usual list of linux/bsd file systems?
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