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2007/11/12-16 [Transportation/Car/Hybrid, Transportation/Car/RoadHogs] UID:48610 Activity:nil
11/12   The smart cars only get 33/40?
        \_ My 82 Datsun 720 diesel pickup beats that. -scottyg
           \_ My whimpy '87 Ford Escort Pony 4-seater used to get 38mpg
        \_ Under the standard American test environment (fat 300 pound
           man), yes.
        \_ That's worse than the Prius which seats 5 (or 4 if you are the
           standard American size.)
        \_ Check out the "What about safety?" section.  Can a car so tiny
           really be that safe???  BTW how come our NHTSA doesn't conduct
           crash tests at 50mph?
           \_ Because a 50mph crash is going to kill you.  Anyone who survives
              a wreck at those speeds is very lucky someone got them to a good
              hospital immediately and owes their lives to the first
              \_ "...... Schembri's team hauled in one that was smashed in the
                 rear in a 50-mph test. There was no intrusion into the
                 passenger compartment."
           \_ Generally, the larger a vehicle is, the more dangerous it is.
              \_ huh?  The heavier it is, the safer it is to the occupants.
                 It's not safer for the others on the road....
                 \_ The larger the vehicle, the more dangerous for others
                    and the more likely to get into an accident in the first
                    place since handling will be worse.  But once in an
                    accident, the heavier vehicle general is safer.  Of
                    course SUVs have more lax safety standards, so ...
               \_ The Smart Car weighs 2400 pounds, which isn't really all
                  that light. The Yaris weighs less and the Fit and Mini
                  about the same.
        \_ Smart cars are not bought for gas mileage but for the ability to
           park anywhere easily I think.
           \_ No, smart cars are imported for the tiny little Asian people
              who live in American cities (e.g. San Francisco). These are
              the same tiny little Asians who like to buy tiny little Hello
              Kitty toys and have tiny little yuppie Yorkshire Terriers.
              \_ Uhh dude, EUROPEAN.
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For sheer visual impact, the compactness of the Smart car is sure to catch attention. But buyers are going to have to consider how the two-seat Smart stacks up compared with similarly priced four-seat subcompacts. On value, some drivers may decide that bigger actually is better. Would the advantages, such as fuel economy and ease of parking, outweigh safety concerns for you? To her, buying a Smart car with its 2008 EPA rating of about 40 miles per gallon on the highway amounts to treading lightly on Mother Earth. Moudakas is among 30,000 people that Smart executives say have slapped down a refundable $99 for a reservation to buy one of the cars. When they appear on streets in about two months, it will be the start of what could become a new chapter in American motoring: the modern microcar. "It turns heads wherever it goes," boasts David Schembri, president of Smart USA, a division of a megadealer that's importing the cars from automaker Daimler, which also makes Mercedes. They are well on their way to signing up 73 initial Smart dealers across the country. They developed an elaborate test drive program that ran more than 50,000 drivers through during 50 stops around the country in the past few months. And they are selling -- or more accurately, taking reservations -- only through the Internet. But before the first college fraternity can see how many students can be stuffed into one of his tiny two-seaters, Schembri faces some big challenges. After the initial flurry of sales, can buyer interest be sustained? Will well-heeled city dwellers who love the design also embrace its modest performance? Will moms and dads feel comfortable having their sons and daughters drive a tiny Smart car? And can it hold its own in a collision with a big American SUV? Small is beautiful A couple of automotive consultants think Americans are ready for an 8-foot, 8-inch car. "There is a nice market for tight parking, people who want to drive something a bit different," says Michael Robinet, vice president of auto industry consultants CSM Worldwide. They will put up with the car's limitations "as long as they know this is not exactly a cross-country vehicle but an urban traveler." With gas prices headed squarely past the $3-a-gallon mark again, "Timing couldn't be any better," says Bob Cosmai, a consultant and former CEO of Hyundai Motor America. The Smart, which will be displayed starting later this week at the Los Angeles Auto Show, isn't new -- only new to most of the USA. The original idea hearkens back to the 1970s, but took off after Nicolas Hayek, who founded the Swatch wristwatch line, announced in 1989 that he wanted to bring a newfangled small car to market. The Smart name comes from combining the S from Swatch, the M from Mercedes and ART. Production of the Smart ForTwo, as the model is known, began in Hambach, France, in 1998. Daimler flirted with the idea of bringing it to the USA from the start. In 2004, the plan was to import the four-passenger sport-utility model. A year later, Smart was restructured and nixed the small SUV, so it never got here. In 2006, Dieter Zetsche, CEO of what was then DaimlerChrysler, said the company would bring the little ForTwo to the USA instead. By then the car was already becoming a cultural icon, making an appearance both in the best-selling novel The Da Vinci Code and in the movie version starring Tom Hanks. Although gas prices were already climbing, Zetsche said the car's appeal in the USA would transcend fuel thrift. Today, about 800,000 have been sold in 36 countries, including Canada. But in a twist that's in keeping with its quirkiness, Daimler won't sell Smart directly in the USA. That duty falls to the Penske Automotive Group, the nation's second-largest dealer chain. "I'm overwhelmed by the interest," says Roger Penske, the racing great and company CEO who has taken a personal hand in creating the Smart sales network. The model coming to the USA was designed from the ground up for this market, Schembri says. While being fashioned with US safety standards in mind, it's lost none of its eccentric character. For owners who tire of their car's color, it's easy to change in a couple of hours. The body is swathed in plastic panels that can be switched out by a dealer or a skillful individual. Schembri says he envisions owners going to online auction sites to find fellow panel swappers. A "safety kit" can be purchased for the inside of the rear tailgate that includes items such as an umbrella, extra fuses and a flashlight The Smart car will be priced in three versions: the $11,590 base-level Pure; and top-of-the-line $16,590 convertible Passion Cabriolet. The more upscale models have luxury touches like paddle shifters, sunroofs and heated side mirrors. 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To try to underscore Smart's safety to visiting reporters, Schembri's team hauled in one that was smashed in the rear in a 50-mph test. They also showed videos of front-crash tests and a mannequin-filled Smart car rolling over and over like someone kicking an empty soda can. One of the tests involved hitting an S-Class Mercedes, which weighs more than twice as much. The point is always the same: The safety cage surrounding the passengers always held up. The latest model received four out of five stars in tests by the Euro NCAP, a government-sponsored European auto-testing agency, one more than the previous model. The agency's statement on the results, however, warns that the frontal impact test is based only on striking "another car of similar mass." That offers no assurance about how the Smart will fare if it smacks into a big, hulking American SUV. "All the crash tests show the Smart has extraordinary performance" in holding up through an accident, says Karl-Heinz Baumann, the Mercedes engineer in charge of this latest model. Not only is the shell that protects passengers difficult to penetrate, but the interior has more room for them to bounce around, an added safety factor. The car has four air bags, anti-lock brakes, stability control and a collapsing steering column. Baumann says Mercedes studies real accidents in countries where the car is sold to validate its design. Marc Ross, an emeritus physics professor at the University of Michigan who has studied small-car safety, says a car like the Smart is not unsafe, per se. If the car's safety shell holds up, passengers stand a good chance of survival or lesser injury in a serious accident. "Intrusion is the most serious threat to survival," he says. If the car seems unconventional, so is the way it's being sold. 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