11/12 Server nerds, CCC for mac is totally awesome. is there somethng
as cool and friendly for PC or unix?
\_ Hi. "CCC" is a free mac program known as "Carbon Copy Cloner".
If you use a Mac, and have some sort of external usb or firewire
drive, I recommend you spend 15 minutes downloading it and
setting it up. You can easily make a backup set up your data,
set up incremental backups, and even make a nice bootable image
of your drive onto your external usb drive, so when the disk
on your Mac finally fails (all drives fail eventually), it's
just a few minutes work getting up again (after you replace the
drive obviously). I'm not trolling, I'm just describing
my experience, my Mac is not running a terabyte SAN NAS fiber
highly available hot swapping RAID, calm the fuck down.
\_ What is CCC? -dans
\_ Wow, you are really ignorant. Stay in school!
\_ Color Climax Corp. of Denmark.
\_ Oh, so it's like rsync for people who can't be bothered to
learn rsync. -dans
\- dont be silly. i'm a "BFUN" [\infra] and probably
have looked deeper into rsync than 99% of rsync
users [i.e. how to optimize for certain large
data sets in scientific computation, see e.g.
mutli-round rsync paper], but i use these $5-$30
programs to back up my computer ... the calculus
is "are these worth $5-$30", not "can i write
something similar". ironically your comment echos
holob's "http is ftp for idiots".
\_ If I'm going to back up data it's because I value
it appreciably more than $5-$30. I've seen
elaborate backup systems fail at recovery time
because the data was corrupt. You'll forgive me
if I compare a known good one-line rsyncism to a
$5 to $30 backup program that may or may not
work. I think you and I are working with
different calculuses. -dans
\_ This is again typical: 1. you are claiming
this isnt that hard 2. You claim you wouldn't
trust a program that google will tell you has
1000s of satisified users --> 1. do you think
everyone else is a moron? or 2. do you not
feel you can tell the difference between
a review written by a moron/non moron? ...
in fact often you can even read the author's
writings and judge for yourself ... in fact
if you weren't such a pud, you might even
if you weren't pud like you, you might even
entertain the notion the author is cleverer
thn you. and it's a question of whether your
than you. and it's a question of whether your
"marginal time" to reproduce the functionlity
of the $30 software is worth $30 ... not "is
the functionality of the software worth $30".
The fundamental E_HOLARB is the "center of
universe problem": statements he makes
"about the world" often are really
"about the universe" often are really
statements about his state of knowledge.
one attendant phenomena is pronoucing things
"easy" when you really havent considered the
"easy" when you relly havent considered the
nuances. does ths sound familiar ["one line
rsync"]? you have a lot in common with
holob, except i think your head is further up
rsync"]? man you have a lot in common with
holob, except i think you head is further up
your ass ... might be interesting to see over
time whether it gets buried deeper or starts
to "slide" out.
"if the functionality of the software worth
$30". man you have a lot in common with holob,
(like assuming things where you havent
considered some nuances "simple" ... the
Fundamental Holarb Diagnosis aka the "center
of universe problem" is statements he makes
"about the universe" often are really
statements about his state of knowledge)
except i think you head is further up your
ass ... be interesting to see over time whether
it is buried deeper or starts to "slide" out.
it is gets buried deeper or starts to "slide"
out.
\_ Partha, if I didn't know how to accomplish
this with rsync already, then, yes, that
would make sense. In my case, the time
required to reproduce the functionality of
a $30 piece of software is a sunk cost. The
time to research that piece of software has
a significant marginal cost. Also, one or
even many good reviews don't offer proof
that the software doesn't have some
obscure, fatal flaw. I'm not saying that
this is the case for everyone. -dans
\_ You simply are wrong if you think
all one of these backup suites
does is rsync-type functionality.
I'm not interested in assessing
whether this error is due to
ignorance or arrogance etc.
\_ Oh, I have no doubt they do other
things; it's more a question of what
*I* need/how well it handles massive
amounts of data. -dans
\_ Do other languages have the 'your head is lodged
firmly up your ass' idiom, or is this an English
only thing?
\- only in pointer-based languages --psb
\_ So you are saying dans is difficult to
garbage collect? -- ilyas
\_ Are you saying dans is hard to garbage
collect? -- ilyas
\_ This is true. In my experience if you're not a big fucking
unix nerd and you spend all day making pretty pictures
in Adobe CS, you don't want to worry about the details
of rsync and keeping backup restoral incremental sets.
In fact even if you are a big fucking nerd you have
better things to do.
\_ I'll have to check it out. If only it was invented ten
years earlier. -dans
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