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us Slash-and-burn columnist Ann Coulter shocked a cable TV talk-show audience Monday when she declared that Jews need to be "perfected" by becoming Christians, and that America would be better off if everyone were Christian. Coulter made the remarkable statements during an often heated appearance to promote her new book on advertising guru Donny Deutsch's CNBC show "The Big Idea." In response to a question from Deutsch asking Coulter if "it would be better if we were all Christian," the controversial columnist responded: "Yes." "Yes," Coulter responded, asking Deutsch, who is Jewish, if he would like to "come to church with me." Deutsch, pressing Coulter further, asked, "We should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians?" Coulter deflected Deutsch's assertion that her comments were anti-Semitic, matter-of-factly telling the show's obviously upset host, "That is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews." The show transcript of their conversation about Jews appears below: DEUTSCH: Let me ask you a question. We're going to get off strengths and weakness for a second. If you had your way, and all of your -- forget that any of them -- COULTER: I like this. DEUTSCH: -- are calculated marketing teases, and your dreams, which are genuine, came true having to do with immigration, having to do with women's -- with abortion -- what would this country look like? It would look like New York City during the Republican National Convention. In fact, that's what I think heaven is going to look like. COULTER: Happy, joyful Republicans in the greatest city in the world. DEUTSCH: No, no, no, no, but I'm talking about this country. You don't want to make this country -- it's not about Republicans. I'm saying, what would the fabric of this country look like? COULTER: Well, everyone would root for America, the Democratic Party would look like Joe Lieberman, the Republican Party would look like Duncan Hunter -- DEUTSCH: No, no, no, I don't want -- I'm not talking about politically the landscape. Would there be -- would women be happier, would the races get along better? What -- tell me what would be different in our fabric of country, because -- COULTER: Well, all of those things. DEUTSCH: I can give -- I can give you an argument there would be more divisiveness, that there would be more hate -- COULTER: Oh, no. DEUTSCH: That there would be a bigger difference between the rich and the poor, a lot of other -- tell me what -- why this would be a better world? Let's give you -- I'm going to give you -- say this is your show. COULTER: Well, OK, take the Republican National Convention. They defend America, they -- DEUTSCH: Christian -- so we should be Christian? DEUTSCH: So I should not be a Jew, I should be a Christian, and this would be a better place? COULTER: Well, you could be a practicing Jew, but you're not. But -- so we would be better if we were -- if people -- if there were no Jews, no Buddhists -- COULTER: Whenever I'm harangued by -- DEUTSCH: -- in this country? COULTER: -- you know, liberals on diversity -- DEUTSCH: Here you go again. I give all of these speeches at megachurches across America, and the one thing that's really striking about it is how utterly, completely diverse they are, and completely unself-consciously. You walk past a mixed-race couple in New York, and it's like they have a chip on their shoulder. They're just waiting for somebody to say something, as if anybody would. I see a lot of interracial couples, and I don't see any more or less chips there either way. In fact, there was an entire "Seinfeld" episode about Elaine and her boyfriend dating because they wanted to be a mixed-race couple, so you're lying. COULTER: But yeah, I think that's reflective of what's going on in the culture, but it is completely striking that at these huge megachurches -- the idea that, you know, the more Christian you are, the less tolerant you would be is preposterous. DEUTSCH: That isn't what I said, but you said I should not -- we should just throw Judaism away and we should all be Christians, then, or -- COULTER: Yeah. DEUTSCH: You can't possibly -- you're too educated, you can't -- you're like my friend in -- COULTER: Do you know what Christianity is? DEUTSCH: No, no, no, but I mean -- COULTER: We have the fast-track program. DEUTSCH: No, but in fact, "Let's wipe Israel" -- COULTER: I don't know if you've been paying attention. COULTER: No, we think -- we just want Jews to be perfected, as they say. We believe the Old Testament, but ours is more like Federal Express. We know we're all sinners -- DEUTSCH: In my old days, I would have argued -- when you say something absurd like that, there's no -- COULTER: What's absurd? I'm going to go off and try to perfect myself -- COULTER: Well, that's what the New Testament says. DEUTSCH: Ann Coulter, author of "If Democrats Had Any Brains, They'd Be Republicans," and if Ann Coulter had any brains, she would not say Jews need to be perfected. During the break, Ann said she wanted to explain her last comment. I don't think you should take it that way, but that is what Christians consider themselves: perfected Jews. As you know from the Old Testament, God was constantly getting fed up with humans for not being able to, you know, live up to all the laws. What Christians believe -- this is just a statement of what the New Testament is -- is that that's why Christ came and died for our sins. DEUTSCH: You said -- your exact words were, "Jews need to be perfected." DEUTSCH: But that's what you said -- don't you see how hateful, how anti-Semitic -- COULTER: No! This is what Christians consider themselves, because our testament is the continuation of your testament. I mean (Jerry) Falwell himself said that, but you have to follow laws. For me to say that for you to become a Christian is to become a perfected Christian is not offensive at all. DEUTSCH: We will let the audience decide then, won't we?
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