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10/24   "Peak oil projections from Chevron's CTO | Tech news blog - CNET:"
        http://www.csua.org/u/jtf
        I don't get the math.  If "there is a trillion gallons left for human
        consumption" and human are consuming "about 3 billion gallons a day
        worldwide", doesn't mean that we will use up what's left in one year?
        \- world stock is probaby barrels.
        \_ oh shit by 2012 we'll have consumed 1.5 tri gallons. Many
           psychics also predict the end of the world by 2012!!!
        \- world stock is generally in billions of *barrels*.
           so closer to 30-50yrs.
           \_ So when that guy said "a trillion gallons left", he really meant
              a trillion barrels left?
              \- i didnt read it carfully, but probably. the oil reserves
                 like the money supply has differet numbers under different
                 assumptions. for money supply we have M1, M2, M3, L.
                 oil reserves have P1 P2 P3 ... all with different magnitudes,
                 error bars, and uses. they are all in the "petabarrel" range.
                 \- i glanced at the comments. one of the followup correctly
                    says he meant barrels not gal, but incorrectly says one
                    bbl is 31gal. it is 42gal for oil.
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Dow Jones Alternative Energy Innovations conference here. Oil companies with current technologies can't get it all out of the ground, so maybe there is a trillion gallons left for human consumption. Chevron CTO Don Paul Don Paul, CTO, Chevron (Credit: Chevron) And we're consuming a lot of fuel: about 3 billion gallons a day worldwide, or roughly a half-gallon for every person on the planet. By 2012, the human race will have consumed 15 trillion gallons, Paul said in a hallway conversation. Thus, peak oil--the theory that we're about to get into declining numbers on conventional oil--is probably real. However, Paul said, "I don't think it has to be the catastrophe that other people have predicted because there are other ways to make fuel." One problem is that producing oil from shale or oil sands generates significant amounts of carbon dioxide--but a lot of that carbon dioxide comes from producing the hydrogen needed to process the raw materials. "It is this production of hydrogen that is creating the CO2," Paul said. Some French companies, he said, have proposed building nuclear plants in Canada near the oil sands deposits to generate steam--that is, water vapor. Biofuels will also contribute, but biofuels are small right now. Roughly 20,000 gallons of biofuels get made a day, and that needs to be increased by 10 or 20 times, Paul said. "Even the best batteries have 1/10th of the energy density of gasoline," he said. Chevron is kicking off a large sequestration project in Australia. Sequestration is a technological challenge, but the bigger problem is financing and planning the infrastructure. Just to capture the carbon dioxide coming out of power plants, factories and other "stationary" CO2 emitters, it would take an infrastructure the same size as the natural gas infrastructure. Expect to see sequestration projects in the US Given that the US has produced more oil than anywhere else in the world, historically speaking--250 billion gallons have been sucked out of the ground here--there is lots of empty space underground.