Berkeley CSUA MOTD:Entry 48434
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2007/10/24-26 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iran, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:48434 Activity:low
10/24   so how is ISLAMO FACISM AWARENESS WEEK going?
        \_ David Horowitz would make the ultimate Motd troll.
        \_ http://www.newsweek.com/id/57346
           "Here is the reality. Iran has an economy the size of
            Finland's and an annual defense budget of around $4.8
            billion. It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century"
            \_ Does financing and supporting internation terrorism count
               as invasion?
               \_ Since the primary victims of Iranian funded terrorism are
                  Israeli jews, no it doesn't count, because as we all know
                  Hamas, Fatah (once headed by the democratically elected
                  Nobel Peace Prize winner, Arafat), and the rest are all
                  just Freedom Fighters working hard to liberate their
                  homeland from oppressive racist invaders.  <sarcasm off>
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See More From The Homepage WORLD VIEW Fareed Zakaria Stalin, Mao And ... Conservatives have become surprisingly charitable about two of history's greatest mass murderers. Iran from having the knowledge necessary to make a nuclear weapon." These were not the barbs of some neoconservative crank or sidelined politician looking for publicity. This was the president of the United States, invoking the specter of World War III if Iran gained even the knowledge needed to make a nuclear weapon. The American discussion about Iran has lost all connection to reality. a revolutionary whose objective is to overturn the going international system and to replace it in the fullness of time with a new order dominated by Iran and ruled by the religio-political culture of Islamofascism." For this staggering proposition Podhoretz provides not a scintilla of evidence. It has not invaded a country since the late 18th century. The United States has a GDP that is 68 times larger and defense expenditures that are 110 times greater. Israel and every Arab country (except Syria and Iraq) are quietly or actively allied against Iran. And yet we are to believe that Tehran is about to overturn the international system and replace it with an Islamo-fascist order? When the relatively moderate Mohammed Khatami was elected president in Iran, American conservatives pointed out that he was just a figurehead. Real power, they said (correctly), especially control of the military and police, was wielded by the unelected "Supreme Leader," Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. Now that Ahmadinejad is president, they claim his finger is on the button. The Soviet and Chinese regimes had a "residual rationality," he explained. Stalin and Mao--who casually ordered the deaths of millions of their own people, fomented insurgencies and revolutions, and starved whole regions that opposed them--were rational folk. One of the bizarre twists of the current Iran hysteria is that conservatives have become surprisingly charitable about two of history's greatest mass murderers. If I had to choose whom to describe as a madman, North Korea's Kim Jong Il or Ahmadinejad, I do not think there is really any contest. A decade ago Kim Jong Il allowed a famine to kill 2 million of his own people, forcing the others to survive by eating grass, while he imported gallons of expensive French wine. He has sold nuclear technology to other rogue states and threatened his neighbors with test-firings of rockets and missiles. Yet the United States will be participating in international relief efforts to Pyongyang worth billions of dollars. James Dobbins E-mail This Article From: To: Add a personal message (optional): Submit Cancel Discuss Comments: Submit Member Comments * Posted By: zaaazu @ 10/24/2007 11:10:15 PM Comment: to Syderijed: You and other Israel firsters conveniently hide the fact that your spoilt little Israel has more than 200 nukes and more weapons of mass destruction than any country in ME All paid for by US tax-dollar money. Disloyal Israeli firster Jews should be bombed first and hanged in Times Square. Your kind of unpatriotic Americans are the ones taking US to war with all in MidEast for you dreams of Greater Israel. Zakaria makes a strong argument and seems to support it with solid facts, but I kept getting the suspicion that he's simplifying the matter too much.