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| 2007/10/23-26 [Politics/Domestic/Crime, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48421 Activity:moderate |
10/22 I haven't trolled emarkpd in a while. How's that Mormon thing
coming along?
\_ He still supports Bush and his Iraq War in the glorious name
of freedom. Troll on that.
\_ Wow. Now I'm a daemon process? -emarkp
\_ Hey emarkp, why are Republicans against renewal energy and weed?
\_ Because all Republicans are evil neanderthals and all Democrats
are living incarnations of the essence of Good. This is the
motd, there is no other fact you need know. Run along.
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalocalypse
\_ you know there is a lot of current evidence that Republicans
and their media machine and all the noisy right wing blogs
are really run by insane, evil neanderthals bent on destroying
all that is good in this world. democrats just aren't that
organized.
\_ Straw man. No one on the motd believes the latter statement
(though perhaps many believe the former).
\_ They don't believe it but they sure say it on the motd
a lot. Are they all trolls? No, there are people right
here on the motd who actually believe it.
\_ I have never seen anyone post to the motd that Democrats
are all perfect, except in satire. Can you find one for
me?
\_ This is the place to be to see Democrat politico
stupidly defended to the bitter end. The most
recent case being "Reid+40 other (D) Senators wrote
a smearing lie letter to a radio show host's boss
in an effort to help charity". But really you know
that and many other things I don't have to dig out
of the archives. There's no point. Go post your
final comment if you like. I won't respond any
futher to such an obvious troll. You've been fed
enough today.
\_ can we please classify dans as "idiot" rather
than "democrat"?
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
-- ilyas
\_ But ilyas, isn't the wikipedia composed by
the crowds of unwashed masses? Isn't it a
tool for unsuspecting fools and morons
doomed to be duped by faux inexpert
wisdom; the blind leading the blind if you
will? I'm shocked. Shocked I say that you
would quote from such a source. -dans
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman
-- ilyas
\_ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm
-dans
\_ Nope, more like his idiocy trumps everything
else. It's not that he isn't a true democrat,
it's that he is also a true egotistical moron
as well.
\_ Clearly I'm doing sometthing right if I'm
pissing people off this much. -dans
\_ I don't think dans would consider himself a
Democrat, but am ready to concede here if wrong.
How about it dans, are you a Democrat?
\_ No, but I have voted for Democrats in the
past. -dans |
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| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metalocalypse search Metalocalypse The characters of Metalocalypse in a promotional poster. From left to right: William Murderface, Skwisgaar Skwisgelf, Nathan Explosion, Pickles the Drummer and Toki Wartooth. The show's title was then extended to Dethklock Metalocalypse, although the starring band still retained the name Dethklok. The crew finally shortened the title to Metalocalypse because the extended show title was too complicated. The Metalocalypse premiere was the #1 rated show in its time slot among males aged 18-34, and earned the network's best premiere delivery and ratings to date in 2006. Among the top ad-supported basic cable programs of the week, Metalocalypse ranked #12 among men 18-34 and #6 among men 18-24. They enjoy a popularity level unheard of in reality, being "the twelfth largest economy on Earth." They are so popular that their fans will do anything their songs tell them, even if it means death. If Dethklok endorses a company, it instantly becomes the only source for the product it happens to sell, as every competitor is quickly driven out of business. specialists", such as "military pharmaceutical psychotropic drug manufacturers", "celebrity depression specialists" or various psychopaths that attempt to infiltrate the group. charity result in numerous deaths, such as the laser light show that butchered the London Philharmonic orchestra during a benefit concert, and an entire island being maimed by "wayward kitties". The premiere episode gives an example of this: a metal box that serves as the band's stage is airlifted and dropped on location, but misses the landing area and crushes a good portion of the crowd, both by virtue of its landing and by its subsequent opening. at the entrance, signing their lives away and releasing the band from legal liability in the very likely case they are killed or dismembered. The band members reside together in a vast mansion called Mordhaus (German for "Murder House") in an unspecified mountainous region known as Mordland. sociopathic and inept in all things non-musical except for negotiating their own contracts. Despite the band's immense success and talent, all of the members have self-esteem issues which surface to varying degrees during the show. Their monumental wealth allows them to get away with just about anything, including murder. The band members share an obsession with "brutality" and "metal-ness," often choosing whether or not to do something based on how "metal" they believe it to be. edit References to real bands Nearly every episode features several passing references to other real-world metal bands in the form of names, places, or general behavior on the part of the characters. Cannibal Corpse over the microphone in Fintrolls - "Price check, clean-up aisle 6 Rotted Body Landslide. And don't forget our special sale on Every Bone Broken chicken! Deep Purple * In the episode "The Curse of Dethklok" Toki and Skwisgaar make reference to a former chef of the band who shot himself in the head which they photographed and put on one of their album covers. |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman Aberdeen man whose brutal actions make the Brighton sex maniac seem almost gentlemanly. This fact shows that Hamish was wrong in his opinion but is he going to admit this? This time he says, "No true Scotsman would do such a thing." "A true Scotsman" (a concept) is not on the same level as "a true triangle" (a concept) never mind "the true Antony Flew" (a concrete existing object). The formal similarity, "true X", and the corresponding feeling that the concepts should be on the same level, in some sense must be on the same level (even perhaps all exist as objects), motivates the fallacy. because of a disagreement concerning certain matters of policy. For example, it may be argued that "No decent person would support hanging", "watch pornography", or "smoke in public". Often the speaker seems unaware that he is, in fact, coercively (re)defining the meaning of the phrase "decent person" to gain tactical advantage in the argument. The use of this technique shifts the debate away from the merits of hanging, pornography, or smoking (or whatever controversial subject that may be at issue) by attempting to establish, without basis in logic, that anyone disagreeing with the speaker is, in fact, "indecent". edit Exceptions Some elements or actions are clearly contradictory to the subject, and therefore aren't fallacies. The statement "No true Scotsman would be born and raised in India to Indian parents" is not fallacious because it follows from the accepted definition of "Scotsman", which is having significant cultural or genealogical relation to Scotland. We might argue about the degree to which one must have that relation to be a "true" Scotsman (the fallacy); however there can be no dispute that zero relation actually does disqualify. value judgement between a "true vegetarian" and the implied "false vegetarian" cannot likewise be categorized as a fallacy, given the clear disjunction. However, the "no true Scotsman" fallacy might also be used in claiming that no "true" vegetarian would wear fur or leather, as this hinges on a (possible) associated trait, rather than the definition of vegetarianism. Alternatively, if a statement in the "no true Scotsman" form is not intended as an empirical argument, but as the conclusion to an argument about definition, then it is not a fallacy. It is possible to make formally valid arguments about contested definitions. Soviet invasion of Hungary because the basic goal of Marxism is the self-emancipation of the working class" may or may not be true, but it is not an instance of the "no true Scotsman" fallacy. |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strawman To "set up a straw man" or "set up a straw man argument" is to create a position that is easy to refute, then attribute that position to the opponent. edit Examples An example of a straw man fallacy: Person A: I don't think children should play on busy streets. Person B: I think that it would be foolish to lock children up all day. By insinuating that Person A's argument is far more dramatic than it is, Person B has side-stepped the issue. premise that "The only way to stop children running into the busy streets is to keep them inside all day", which is not person A's position. |
| en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarcasm edit Sarcasm in written communication Because it is vocally oriented, sarcasm can be difficult to grasp in written form and is easily misinterpreted. For example, Shakespeare regularly used sarcasm as a literary tool to emphasize a point or joke and rarely ever used quotation marks or italics. This has been a recent development and is sign-posted as a dumbing down of literature by many within the British canon. There is also a rapidly growing punctuation mark in the US that is the ^ symbol. This is derived from the raised eyebrow emoticon and is much easier to type than or the sarcasm tag </sarcasm>. |