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10/19   Awesome.  Now Harry Reid is claiming credit for raising money for
        children by sending the smear letter to Rush Limbaugh.
        http://csua.org/u/jrn
        (transcript at NRO of senate minutes)
        \_ I read that off LGF too, but I don't really agree with that
           interpretation.  It doesn't read to me like he's taking credit
           for it, except the last line, which could be read multiple ways.
           \_ "Never did we think that this letter would bring money of this
              nature. And, for the cause, madam president, it is extremely
              good."  We?  We?!?
        \_ So what if he is?  Frankly I think that's genius. -dans
           \_ Errr... ok.  Taking credit for someone else's good idea hardly
              takes genius.
              \_ Actually I was suggesting that he may actually have
                 manipulated $KNEE_JERK_RIGHT_WING_MOUTHPIECE into this.  I
                 mean, seriously, their buttons are pretty easy to push.  But
                 then I'm evil so I don't think that's a ridiculous idea.
                      \_ Merely stupid.
                 Maybe you do.  Let's split the difference. -dans
                 \_ Yeah, that's a ridiculous idea.  Well, I've learned that
                    "dans <heart> Harry Reid."
                 \_ You think he manipulated Rush into raising money for
                    charity?  Yeah, that's a pretty ridiculous idea.
                 \_ dans <hearts> Harry Reid!
                    \_ Harry Reid can go fuck a goat.  But I do think it's
                    \_ Harry Reid can go fuck a dans.  But I do think it's
                                                \_ A well done modification.
                                                   I o7 (salute) you. -dans
                       easy to manipulate knee-jerk, reactionary talking
                       heads, and I think it would be awesome if it happened
                       more.  I'm not saying that's what happened here, I'm
                       merely saying it's in the realm of possibilitty. -dans
                       merely saying it's in the realm of possibility. -dans
                       \_ It isn't even in the realm of possibilty.  Sorry.
                          Reid and 40 other Dem Senators did not sit down and
                          write a threat letter based on a lie to a radio show
                          host's syndicator with the hope of over $4m dollars
                          (half of it from the radio show host) going to a
                          charity where the radio show host is a board member.
                          \_ In the realm of possibility !=
                             likely !=
                             remotely likely
                             Merely possible.  Get over yourself oh holy arbiter
                             of what is. -dans
                             \_ I love it when people try to justify their
                                stupid statements by lowering the threshold of
                                "possible" to ridiculously low levels.  "Hey
                                a perpetual motion machine is within the
                                realm of possibility, we might discover new
                                physics!"  Yeah, ok, whatever. -!pp
                                \_ Now, perpetual motion machine violates the
                                   laws of thermodynamics.  Apples and orange
                                   my boy.  Suggesting that politicians might
                                   be manipulative and machiavellian is a far
                                   smaller leap than suggesting we oopsed and
                                   misunderstood thermodynamics for the last
                                   few hundred years. -dans
                                   \_ No, you're suggesting something with
                                      the same odds as a working perpetual
                                      motion machine being built.  The odds
                                      that Harry+40 wrote their lying smear
                                      letter with the hope/intent that Rush
                                      and his fans would turn it into a $4m
                                      charity event is zero.  Please let this
                                      thread die.  You're convincing no one.
        \_ That's a doggone lame thing to do.
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Kathryn Jean Lopez Senator Reid just went to the Senate floor and asked people to bid on the Rush letter. UPDATE: Here's a raw transcript from the Senate: REID: MADAM PRESIDENT, EARLY THIS MONTH I CAME TO THE FLOOR TO DISCUSS SOME COMMENTS MADE BY RUSH LIMBAUGH. FOLLOWING MY REMARKS, MORE THAN 40 OF MY SENATE COLLEAGUES AND I CO-SIGNED A LETTER TO THE CHAIRMAN OF CLEAR CHANNEL, MARK MAY, TELLING HIM THAT WE WANTED HIM TO CONFER WITH RUSH LIMBAUGH REGARDING THE } STATEMENTS HE MADE. THIS WEEK, RUSH LIMBAUGH PUT THE ORIGINAL COPY OF THAT LETTER UP FOR AUCTION ON E-BAY. MR PRESIDENT, WE DIDN'T HAVE TIME, OR WE COULD HAVE GOTTEN EVERY SENATOR TO SIGN THAT LETTER. BUT HE PUT THE LETTER UP FOR AUCTION ON E-BAY AND I THINK VERY, VERY CONSTRUCTIVELY, LEFT THE PROCEEDS OF THAT IT GO TO THE MARINE CORPS LAW ENFORCEMENTS FOUNDATION. THAT PROVIDES SCHOLARSHIP ASSISTANCE TO MARINES AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL WHOSE PARENTS FALL IN THE LINE OF DUTY. I THINK IT'S REALLY GOOD THAT THIS MONEY ON E-BAY IS GOING TO BE RAISED FOR THIS PURPOSE. WHEN I SPOKE TO MARK MAYIC HE AND I THOUGHT THIS PROBABLY WOULDN'T MAKE MUCH MONEY, A LETTER WRITTEN BY DEMOCRATIC SENATORS COMPLAINING ABOUT SOMETHING. NEVER DID WE THINK THAT THIS LETTER WOULD BRING MONEY OF THIS NATURE. AND, FOR THE CAUSE, MADAM PRESIDENT, IT IS EXTREMELY GOOD. NOW, EVERYONE KNOWS THAT RUSH LIMBAUGH AND I DON'T AGREE ON EVERYTHING IN LIFE AND MAYBE THAT IS KIND OF AN UNDERSTATEMENT. BUT WITHOUT QUALIFICATION MARK MAY, THE OWNER OF THE NETWORK THAT HAS RUSH LIMBAUGH AND RUSH LIMBAUGH SHOULD KNOW THAT THIS LETTER THAT THEY'RE AUCTIONING IS GOING TO BE SOMETHING THAT RAISES MONEY FOR A WORTHWHILE CAUSE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WE COULD DO MORE IMPORTANT THAN HELPING TO ENSURE THAT CHILDREN OF OUR FALLEN SOLDIERS AND POLICE OFFICERS WHO HAVE FALLEN IN THE LINE OF DUTY HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR THEIR CHILDREN TO HAVE A GOOD EDUCATION. THINK OF THIS, MORE THAN $2 MILLION -- THAT WILL REALLY HELP. THERE'S ONLY A LITTLE BIT OF TIME LEFT SO I WOULD ASK THOSE THAT ARE WANTING TO DO MORE, THAT THEY CAN GO TO HARRY REID LETTER AND IT WILL COME UP ON E-BAY. I ENCOURAGE ANYONE INTERESTED WITH THE MEANS TO CONSIDER CONTRIBUTING TO THIS WORTHWHILE CAUSE. I STRONGLY BELIEVE WHEN WE CAN PUT OUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE, EVEN HARRY REID AND RUSH LIMBAUGH, WE SHOULD DO THAT AND TRY TO ACCOMPLISH GOOD THINGS FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. MORE THAN $2 MILLION FOR A LETTER SIGNED BY THIS SENATOR AND MY FRIENDS.