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10/16 Are standard poodles smarter than George W Bush?
\_ Yes because they're not as stubborn and bullheaded as GWB.
\_ Why the obsession with smart dogs? They're harder to train and
get bored easily. Bored dogs destroy stuff.
\_ Actually, I have experiences with both smart and dumb dogs
(poodle, beagle, dachshund, yorkies) and the smarter they
are on the dog IQ list, the EASIER it is for them to be
trained. It's a LOT more pleasant to have a smart dog that
will be potty-trained easily, and it's a LOT more pleasant
to walk and to go to places with smart dogs. You can train
smart dogs rules and boundaries and they'll "get it" whereas
dumb dogs require barriers and a lot more repetitions before
they get anything. Dumb dogs like beagles cannot be trained
to walk straight even after 100+ repetitions because they
follow their nose instead of their handlers. It's a pain
in the ass to live with someone stupid, and likewise, it's
a pain in the ass to live with a dumb dog. Having that said,
smart dogs are in fact more "creative" when they're bored
and create their own things to do. But when they're properly
exercised everyday, they're a lot more pleasant to live with.
\_ Beagles aren't stupid. They're stubborn. There's a big
difference. Ok. They are stupid. But they problem is
their stubborn nature not lack of brains. There are plenty
of extremely dumb dogs, like labs, that are very easy to
\_ Labs are NOT dumb dogs.
\_ Like a brick. Set up tennis ball tossing machine.
Fill. Turn on. Watch Lab chase tennis balls for
hours. If you can train it to put them back in
the bin the lab won't stop chasing them until you
turn the ball thrower off.
\_ As opposed to what, stopping chasing balls to
write the Great American Novel?
\_ As opposed to getting bored mindlessly chasing
tennis balls for hours.
\_ And then do what, lie around waiting for
someone with opposable thumbs to turn on
the TV? Also, how is mindlessly chasing
balls fundamentally different from playing
Tetris for hours? Or Xbox?
\_ Your dog can't turn on the xbox himself?
Must be a lab.
\_ I'd pay cash money for a brick that could do that.
\_ How much? I'll sell you that brick for the
right price.
\_ Labs come in 7 on the intelligence list below.
\_ That's pretty bright for a dog which will get
fat if it doesn't exercise a lot, which is what
the link below says about labs.
\_ Chasing tennis balls for hours is smart?
\_ That's the thing. A dog sees another dog
on TV and starts looking around and
behind the TV and the husband says
"Look honey, he's so smart, he
recoginizes another dog!" and the wife
fires back "That is so stupid, he should
know by now there's no other dog."
To each his own man.
\_ Actually when the dog responds to a dog
noise on tv, I say, "I guess they used
a real dog for that sound clip", but
that's just me. To each his own dog.
train. Training is about attitude, not smarts. I notice
all the dogs you list are very small and have personality
flaws. Just noting.
\_ Standard poodles are considered small? Ooookay!
\_ Yes poodles have personality issues. The important
thing in training is not size. You missed the point.
\_ What kind of personality issues have you seen?
I haven't experienced them myself. Please share
your experiences, thanks.
\_ Standard pooldes are one of the smartest breeds
and do not have any personality issues that I am
aware of. Why do you think they are?
aware of. What personality issued do you think they
have?
http://www.csua.org/u/jqy (Petmedsonline)
Poodles are #2
\_ Poodles attack more people every year than
pitbulls. They just do less damage. Not getting
killed by a dog is always a good thing but
getting 'only' bitten is still no fun.
\_ URL?
\_ http://www.dogbitelaw.com/Dog%20Attacks%201982%20to%202006%20Clifton.pdf
Dog attack statistics (not maimed but
just "attack"). Poodle: 2. Rottweiler: 109
Pitbull terrier: 397. There ya go. Let
me just say from my personal experience
at 4-5 different dog shows and agility
and obedience/ralley, that I've never seen
aggressive poodles in my life. Maybe
your one experience skewed your bias but
still, it is a bias and does not reflect
reality.
\_ My one experience? You're making that up.
I think your experience with the super
trained robot dogs seen at dog contests
has biased you a bit. Pun intended. I'll
go with the stats over the personal
anecdote. I do appreciate you posting
them honestly though instead of trying to
hide them or making shit up like a few
others here would have done. Anyway, I
would not let the typical pet poodle near
my kids. It won't kill them but they don't
need their faces bit or to learn to hate
dogs.
\_ What a great comeback. "Thanks for
posting facts that indicate poodles
are quite harmless (2 bites) but I'm
still not convinced."
Faith over facts. Great.
\_ Oh you're so scared of POODLES!
One bad experience and you're scared!
What a fucking retard.
\_ I already said I've never been
attacked by a poodle. You're simply
stupid. I don't know what else to
say.
\_ Are you talking about the standard
poodle or toy poodles? They have very
different temperaments. And to the
guy who posted the URL, thanks--pit
bulls are a breed apart and I'm glad
no one will insure them.
\_ I'm talk standard poodles.
\_ The sop (scared of poodle) guy
thinks they're all the same even
though they're not. Toy/tea-cups
are yappy snappy and get scared
easily. They're the one that bite
eagerly partly due to bad breeding
and low self esteem, and partly due
to bad owners (usually first time
owners). However this is not limited
to toy poodles but to the rest of
the toy breeds in general. Now,
standard poodles on the other
owners). Standards on the other
hand are confident, smart, scary
smart and have been said to have
the IQ equivalence of a 5 year
old kid (vs. 2-3 for average dogs).
They are intelligent, elegant, easy
to train, obedience, and for 100's
of years have been the favorite
choice for those who want to have
substitute kids and those who
can actually afford them. Yes,
I have a poodle.
\_ Are you the same poodle-loving
can't-read clown from above?
Why are you posting such a huge
amount of crap about a dog you've
never even seen? What's wrong with
you?
\_ I have a poodle, so until
you provide facts that show
poodles bite more than any
other breeds in America,
shut the fuck up. -pp
\_ ah the truth comes out. go
read the url above to see
attack stats. have a nice
day, poodle-lover-boy! |
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| www.csua.org/u/jqy -> www.petmedsonline.org/top-10-smartest-dogs-in-the-world.html Org The Top 10 Smartest Dog Breeds In The World What are the smartest dogs in the world? We all love our dogs, and most of us believe our own dog must be the smartest ever. We've compiled a list of the top 10 most intelligent dogs ever. Because sometimes, having a dog with very high intelligence can have its drawbacks. For example, if a highly intelligent dog is left at home alone all day, they can get bored and become destructive and/or neurotic. On the other hand, a dog with limited intelligence can be left at home all day, and not even realize you're gone until a few minutes before you arrive home! They need to be exercised on a regular basis, both mentally and physically. As they were originally bred to herd in cattle in Australia (hence the name), they are freethinking, resourceful, and very protective of their property, including people! The Rotti is only average in intensity, and make a great family dog. Not only is the Rottweiler intelligent, but extremely courageous and reliable. Well it should, because Papillons are actually a lot tougher than they look! Some would characterize Papillons as a little moody and aggressive, but they are simply very possessive of their masters and "home turf". Without proper exercise, Labs have been known to develop weight problems. Because of their good nature, and love of children and other dogs, they are a very popular family dog. Shelties were originally bred to herd hundreds of sheep and cattle, requiring great concentration and, of course, intelligence. They can be a little wary of strangers and children, but are very loyal and affectionate within their own family. In fact, the Sheltie very much craves human companionship. Although known as a dominant breed, Dobermans can vary greatly as far as temperament goes. Some can be quite docile, and even work as therapy dogs in hospitals! Dobermans can be great family dogs too, if trained properly from an early age. Although not vicious, you can count on a Doberman to aggressively protect its master if necessary. With such great intelligence, it's no wonder that Golden Retrievers excel in obedience competitions and at performing tricks. As long as they are trained in obedience from an early age by a loving but firm hand, they can be great family dogs, and excellent with children. Because of their intelligence, a German Shepherd needs a purpose or job in life to be truly happy. This intelligence, coupled with their courageous nature make German Shepherds excellent police and search dogs. The standard Poodle is highly intelligent and one of the easiest breeds to train. They love to be around people, and really hate to be left alone. Some standard Poodles are good guard dogs, and some can even be trained as hunters! Overall, Poodles are a sensitive, pleasant and happy breed. If they don't have a purpose in life or some kind of job, they will not be happy. Border Collies should definitely not be left at home alone all day, and if they are, they can become quite destructive. They need constant companionship, praise, and extensive exercise. So if you work and live in the city, a Border Collie probably isn't the dog for you! Because of their legendary intelligence, Border Collies set the standard in competitions for such skills as agility, obedience, and of course, sheepdog trials. |