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2007/10/15-18 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton] UID:48326 Activity:low
10/15   The House pushing a resolution about the Armenian Genocide,
        The president asks the Speaker of the House to pull the legislation
        from the floor.
        Year: 2000
        Speaker: Hastert
        President: Clinton
        http://csua.org/u/jqi
        (Washington Post)
        \_ In 2000 we didn't need Turkey to short path supplies to our
           soldiers.  Was that your point?
           \_ Setting up for the old Dolchstosslegende so soon? I guess
              you guys have finally seen that your crazy crusade is going
              to fail.
               \_ The washington post, right wing super conservative news
                  organ, disagrees with you.  If you think pissing off your
                  closest allies during war is good diplomacy....
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