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2007/10/3-5 [Politics/Domestic/President/Clinton, Politics/Domestic/Immigration, Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:48232 Activity:high
10/3    Jimmy Carter faces down Darfur officials
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_re_af/darfur_9
        He bravely ran away, away!
        \_ Would you kindly fuck off, you cowardly piece of shit? The man
           is 83 years old, and he got in a shouting match with armed men.
           His companions and the Secret Service convinced him to get in the
           car rather than continue the confrontation. If you're going to
           post something, have the nards and decency to read it first.
           \_ I did read it.  He didn't "face them down" they faced him down.
              Nothing really wrong with that, I'd leave too, but the headline
              is wrong.
           \_ Seconded.  Running away would be just scrapping the whole
              deal and not trying again.  In the real world you can't
              go on a humanitarian mission and shout your way past angry
              men with big guns.  That doesn't do any good for anyone.
              But feel free to live in your fantasy world where everything
              gets solved by swinging your big dick around and all the women
              have gravity defying 36DD breasts.
              \_ In my fantasy world, all the women have gravity-defying 32DD
                 breasts instead. -- !PP
        \_ I had the same reaction as the person above, "Hey, Carter may not
           be the POS I thought he was.. read.. read.. oh well".
        \_ He displayed infinitely more personal courage than Bush did
           after 9/11, when the Commander-In-Chief turned tail and
           disappeared into a hole.
           \_ If the President, any President, of any party, showed up at
              ground zero just to pose for the cameras, he deserves to die.
              That is the most assinine and stupid gripe you could possibly
              have.  It is the one thing that he clearly did right that day.
              \_ Did I say he should have gone to ground zero? No, I did not.
                 He could have provided some leadership though, instead of
                 being a coward.
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news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071003/ap_on_re_af/darfur_9
AP Jimmy Carter faces down Darfur officials By ALFRED de MONTESQUIOU, Associated Press Writer Wed Oct 3, 9:51 AM ET KABKABIYA, Sudan - Former President Carter got in a shouting match Wednesday with Sudanese security services who blocked him from a town in Darfur where he was trying to meet with refugees from the ongoing conflict. Click Here The 83-year-old Carter walked into this highly volatile pro-Sudanese government town to meet refugees too frightened to attend a scheduled meeting at a nearby compound. He was able to make it to a school where he met with one tribal representative and was preparing to go further into the town when Sudanese security officers stopped him. the local security chief, who only gave his first name as Omar, yelled at Carter, who is in Darfur as part of a delegation of respected international figures known as "The Elders." UN officials told Carter's entourage the Sudanese state police could bar his way. 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