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2007/10/1-5 [Politics/Domestic/Crime] UID:48216 Activity:moderate
10/01   Murtha is sued by Marine cleared in Haditha case for defamation.
        Federal judge refuses dismissal and orders Murtha to testify.
        http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5j-LnJlto4CJin4_NnKFQIIGSm2hQD8RUNA800
        \_ I am sorry, but this is idiotic. This is like filing defamation
           charges against a DA because he calls someone a drug dealer.
           \_ If you're not convicted, even a DA is not allowed to call someone
              that.
              \_ "even" = "especially"
              \_ What do you call what the DA does every single day of the
                 week, when he files charges against people?
                 week, when he files charges against people? He has what is
                 called "absolute privilege" when he is doing his job as a
                 DA and so does a Senator. This judge is a nut case.
                 \_ His court room job is to find out the truth of the case,
                    not to assume guilt.  How sad that our system has come to
                    this.  He is not supposed to run around calling unconvicted
                    people criminals.  They're not.
                    \_ Google "absolute privilege" and get back to me. Murtha
                       was doing his job from the floor of the Senate. It is
                       an open and shut case.
                       \_ Murtha is a criminal scumbag and slamming innocent
                          American soldiers from the senate floor is an abuse
                          of his senate privileges.  Google "Murtha scumbag"
                          and get back to me.  He called innocent men murderers
                          and that's ok with you, apparently.
                          \_ No, I don't think it is okay. I also don't think
                             it is illegal. Do you understand the difference?
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Go to Google News Murtha Must Testify in Defamation Case By KIMBERLY HEFLING - 3 days ago WASHINGTON (AP) -- A federal judge refused Friday to dismiss a defamation case against Rep. John P Murtha and ordered the Pennsylvania Democrat to give a sworn deposition in the case. A Marine Corps sergeant is suing the 18-term congressman for alleging "cold-blooded murder and war crimes" by unnamed soldiers in connection with the deaths of Iraqi civilians in the town of Haditha. The deaths became prominent in May 2006 when Murtha, who opposes the Iraq war, said at a Capitol Hill news conference that a Pentagon war crimes investigation will show Marines killed dozens of innocent Iraqi civilians in the town in 2005. Murtha, a Vietnam veteran and retired Marine Reserves colonel, has said his intention was to draw attention to the pressure put on troops in Iraq and efforts to cover-up the incident. The Justice Department wanted the case dismissed because Murtha was acting in his official role as a lawmaker. Assistant US Attorney John F Henault said the comments were made as part of the debate over the war in Iraq. US District Judge Rosemary M Collyer said the congressman might be right, but said she won't know for sure unless Murtha explains himself. She did not set a date for Murtha's testimony but said she would also require him to turn over documents related to his comments. "You're writing a very wide road for members of Congress to go to their home districts and say anything they choose about private persons and be able to do so without any liability. Collyer said, adding later, "How far can a congressman go and still be protected?" Collyer said she was troubled by the idea the lawmakers are immune from lawsuits regardless of what they say to advance their political careers. Mark S Zaid, the attorney for the plaintiff, Marine Staff Sgt. Frank Wuterich, said he wanted Murtha's deposition and limited documents from the congressman, including calendars and documents related to which reporters he spoke to. Zaid said Murtha was not acting within his congressional duties and was instead trying to embarrass then-Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld, with whom Zaid said Murtha had a personal dispute. Collyer, who was appointed to the bench by President Bush, said the case wasn't about whether to recall troops from Iraq and she didn't "particularly care" about Murtha's views on the war. She said the law cares only about what Murtha intended when he made the comments. Charges have been dismissed against four of the eight Marines who were initially charged with murder or failure to investigate the deaths in Haditha. A battalion commander has been recommended for a court-martial; The investigating officer overseeing the Haditha case is expected to recommend soon whether Wuterich should stand trial.