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2007/9/29-10/5 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq] UID:48212 Activity:nil
9/29    The country is just kicking the wounded Vets to the curb:
        http://www.csua.org/u/jm6
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Today, he can't keep a job, pay his bills, or chase thoughts of suicide from his tortured brain. Gamal Awad, the American son of a Sudanese immigrant, exemplifies an emerging group of war veterans: the economic casualties. More than in past wars, many wounded troops are coming home alive from the Middle East. But they often return hobbled by prolonged physical and mental injuries from homemade bombs and the unremitting anxiety of fighting a hidden enemy along blurred battle lines. Treatment, recovery and retraining often can't be assured quickly or cheaply. These troops are just starting to seek help in large numbers, more than 185,000 so far. But the cost of their benefits is already testing resources set aside by government and threatening the future of these wounded veterans for decades to come, say economists and veterans' groups. "The wounded and their families no longer trust that the government will take care of them the way they thought they'd be taken care of," says veterans advocate Mary Ellen Salzano. He can't even look at the framed photograph that shows him accepting a Marine heroism medal for his recovery work at the Pentagon after the terrorist attack. It might remind him of a burned woman whose skin peeled off in his hands when he tried to comfort her. He tries not to hear the shrieking rockets of Iraq either, smell the burning fuel, or relive the blast that blew him right out of bed. "Nothing can turn off those things," he says, voice choked and eyes glistening. He stews alternately over suicide and finances, his $43,000 in credit card debt, his $4,330 in federal checks each month -- the government's compensation for his total disability from post-traumatic stress disorder. His flashbacks, thoughts of suicide, and anxiety over imagined threats -- all documented for six years in his military record -- keep him from working. The disability payments don't cover the $5,700-a-month cost of his adjustable home mortgage and equity loans. He owes more on his house than its market value, so he can't sell it -- but he may soon lose it to the bank. He used to earn $100,000 a year as a 16-year veteran major with a master's degree in management who excelled at logistics. This dedicated Marine was given a "general" discharge 15 months ago for an extramarital affair with a woman, also a Marine. That's even though his military therapists blamed this impulsive conduct on post-traumatic stress aggravated by his Middle East tours. Luckily, his discharge, though not unqualifiedly honorable, left intact his rights to medical care and disability payments -- or he'd be in sadder shape. Divorced since developing PTSD, Awad has two daughters who live elsewhere. He spends much of his days hoisting weights and thwacking a punching bag in the dimness of his garage. He passes nights largely sleepless, a zombie shuffling through the bare rooms of his home in sunny California wine country. Afghanistan seemed quiet and Saddam Hussein still ruled Iraq one year after the Sept. That's when the US Department of Veterans Affairs guaranteed two years of free care to returning combat veterans for virtually any medical condition with a possible service link. "A lot of people based their planning on low numbers of casualties in a very short war," says Paul Rieckhoff, an Army combat veteran who founded Iraq and Afghanistan Veterans of America. Also, Iraqi insurgents have relied on disfiguring bombs and bombardment as chief tactics. At the same time, better armor and field medicine have kept US soldiers alive at the highest rate ever, leaving 16 wounded for every fatality, according to one study based on government data. On the flip side, many are returning with multiple amputations or other disabling injuries not completely fixed even by fancy prosthetics, methodical rehabilitation, and job retraining. The Pentagon counts more than 29,000 combat wounded in the Middle East since the terrorist attacks on New York and Washington. Tens of thousands more were hurt outside of combat or in ways that show up later. There was no mistaking the wounds of Cambodian-American Sgt. Eight months into his second tour in Iraq, a makeshift bomb blasted his armored vehicle and took both his legs. Still, Tan has needed to rely on private donations and family, as well as the government. The government treated him and paid for his artificial legs. But his brother, Dada, left college to live with him at a military hospital for almost a year. Later, his brother carried him piggyback up and down the stairs at home as Tan got used to his prosthetics. Of 14 million US forces deployed for Iraq and Afghanistan, more than 185,000 have sought care from the VA -- a number that could easily top 700,000 eventually, predicts one academic analysis. The VA has already treated more than 52,000 for PTSD symptoms alone, a presidential commission finds. While his condition and disability claim were evaluated, he ran up about $12,000 worth of medical bills, he says. Despite Social Security and his wife's work, the couple's yearly income was cut in half to $30,000. "We have to be really frugal, as far as what groceries we buy," Waltz says. "I think we're down to just a couple dollars now, until the next time we get paid." On a national scale, the costs of caring for the wounded certainly won't crush the $13 trillion annual American economy. It probably won't bankrupt the VA, which already treats more than 55 million patients each year. 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