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| 2007/9/12-14 [Politics/Domestic/California, Politics/Domestic] UID:48035 Activity:moderate |
9/12 High School students not allowed to wear US Flag
\_ On 9/11
\_ The day that changed everything!
http://img406.imageshack.us/my.php?image=736551408894700123226loxq4.jpg
http://www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-11-0027.html
\_ More imporantly, stupid school bans wearing flags, has
to deal with the consequences of such an assinine rule.
\_ The US flag isn't a foreign flag.
\_ It's a stupid fucking rule. Start banning things just because
they are foreign and you are asking for a much deserved
lawsuit.
\_ I'm pretty sure schools can ban pretty much whatever they
like Anyway, it is a stupid rule, I agree. But the leap
from that rule to baninng the US flag is
mind-boggling. -op (!pp)
\_ No they can't. There are free speach limits even at a
school. And let's take a hypothetical. Hispanic
students start wearing Mexican flags, people get upset
some kids get into fights. The school bans Mexican flags.
(And it doesn't get smacked down.) Now some of the
love it leave it assholes who were also part fighting
start wearing American flags as a fuck you this is America
display (not hard to imagine now is it?) Why is one
acceptable and the other not?
\_ Umm.. because this actually IS ths US?
\_ So why are they banning flags then? Because
"This is America damnit (tm)" or because flags
were causing a significant disruption?
\_ What is wrong with "This is America damnit (tm)"
anyway? Is this *not* America?
\_ Besides the xenophobic viewpoint it's not
appropriate for schools to degenerate into
violence. Why were flags banned in the first
place? Until you get answer that, this is just
squwaking.
\_ Flag Code aside (because that isn't why they
were banned): Banning flags is not the real
issue. The issue is violence. Banning flags
doesn't make the hatred that causes the
violence to go away. Now that I've answered
that, tell me what is so wrong about loving
your country and putting your own nation
above others.
\_ Why not look it up yourself, squwaker? You're
the one asking. Why is it my job to answer
your questions?
\_ Because I'm not the one in hysteronics
about the evil anti-american flag cabal?
\_ Wearing the US flag is a violation of the Flag Code: http://www.legion.org/?section=our_flag&subsection=flag_code&content=flag_respect -tom
\_ So is lowering the US flag to half-mast when some local hero
(e.g. firefighter in your community) dies while in line of duty.
But people do it arbitrarily anyway.
\_ You are incorrect. Half-staff may be ordered by the
president, but that does not preclude respectful displays
by other local authorities at other times.
(Oops. I'm wrong. The order to half-staff can only come
from the President or a Governor. Never mind.)
\_ Yes, it's just funny to see rah rah U-S-A types defending
violations of the Flag Code. -tom |
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| www.nbc17.com/midatlantic/ncn/news.apx.-content-articles-NCN-2007-09-11-0027.html Web Poll Should schools be allowed to ban clothes that display flags? Yes No An exception should be made for US flags An exception should be made for other national or cultural flags Vote Reset View Results Keyword Search Site Web Search Yahoo! School Rescinds Ban On Flag Clothing (09/12/07) SAMPSON COUNTY, NC - On the sixth anniversary of the Sept. Under a new school rule, students at Hobbton High School are not allowed to wear items with flags, from any country, including the United States. The new rule stems from a controversy over students wearing shirts bearing flags of other countries. Gayle Langston said her daughter, Jessica, was told to remove her Stars and Stripes t-shirt. "Today she wanted to wear her shirt, and I had to tell her no," said Langston. "She didn't like it at all because I knew it would get her in trouble. Of all days, 9/11, she could not wear her American Flag shirt." The superintendent of schools in Sampson County calls the situation unfortunate, but says educators didn't want to be forced to pick and choose which flags should be permissible. |
| www.legion.org/?section=our_flag&subsection=flag_code&content=flag_respect print this page The Flag Code - Respect for Flag 8 Respect for flag No disrespect should be shown to the flag of the United States of America; Regimental colors, State flags, and organization or institutional flags are to be dipped as a mark of honor. flag respect The flag should never be displayed with the union down, except as a signal of dire distress in instances of extreme danger to life or property. The flag should never touch anything beneath it, such as the ground, the floor, water, or merchandise. The flag should never be carried flat or horizontally, but always aloft and free. The flag should never be used as wearing apparel, bedding, or drapery. It should never be festooned, drawn back, nor up, in folds, but always allowed to fall free. Bunting of blue, white, and red always arranged with the blue above, the white in the middle, and the red below, should be used for covering a speaker's desk, draping the front of the platform, and for decoration in general. The flag should never be fastened, displayed, used, or stored in such a manner as to permit it to be easily torn, soiled, or damaged in any way. The flag should never be used as a covering for a ceiling. The flag should never have placed upon it, nor on any part of it, nor attached to it any mark, insignia, letter, word, figure, design, picture, or drawing of any nature. The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything. The flag should never be used for advertising purposes in any manner whatsoever. It should not be embroidered on such articles as cushions or handkerchiefs and the like, printed or otherwise impressed on paper napkin or boxes or anything that is designed for temporary use and discard. Advertising signs should not be fastened to a staff or halyard from which the flag is flown. No part of the flag should ever be used as a costume or athletic uniform. However, a flag patch may be affixed to the uniform of military personnel, firemen, policemen, and members of patriotic organizations. The flag represents a living country and is itself considered a living thing. Therefore, the lapel flag pin being a replica, should be worn on the left lapel near the heart. The flag, when it is in such condition that it is no longer a fitting emblem for display, should be destroyed in a dignified way, preferably by burning. |