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2007/7/19-21 [Recreation/Food] UID:47344 Activity:high
7/19    1 beef cow = 10,000 POUNDS of carbon dioxide equivalent.
        Cows -> green house -> kill.
        Cows are killing us!
        http://blog.newsweek.com/blogs/labnotes/archive/2007/07/18/what-me-sacrifice-take-2.aspx
        \_ Don't have a cow, man!
        \_ You didn't hear about the UN report about the greenhouse gasses
           attributable to the meat industry?  It's more than all cars
           combined. -emarkp
           \_ Don't forget that eating 1 pound of beef from an arid region
              uses up more water than one year of showering every day for 7
              minutes with a low flow showerhead ...
        \_ There is also that whole thing about cow flatulence and methane
           contributing to global warming. go veg.
           \_ Save the earth.  Stop farting.
        \_ It's okay, though, because the overall biomass must be
           decreasing now that there aren't any wild animals left (bison,
           tigers, sharks, rhinos, and so on). Placing the blame on cows
           is ridiculous unless they produce more C02 than similar
           animals. If that's the case, make the move to produce meat from
           other animals then.
           \_ I think we don't want to produce meat from other animals because
              of Mad Cow disease.
           \_ You do understand that CO2 is a minor green house gas compared
              to methane, right?  No one would post to the motd unless they
              knew what they were talking about, right?
              \_ ^C02^methane
                 Does yout nit change the point?
                 Does your nit change the point?
                 \_ Yes.
                    \_ Not. The question is: Do cows emit more of XYZ
                       green house gases per pound of flesh than some
                       other animal that we can eat instead? So, if zebra
                       emits less then I guess we will all have zebra
                       steaks. I would guess that cow, buffalo, ostrich,
                       whatever are about the same per pound, but I have no
                       idea. Do you? Is this a cow problem or a 'large
                       herbivore' problem?
                       \_ Yes, because meat is ESSENTIAL TO HUMAN EXISTENCE
                          \_ It is essential to my existence. Regardless,
                             please answer the question. Is the problem the
                             cow (seems an easy problem to fix by substitution)
                             or animals bred for meat in general? If, e.g.
                             buffalo  produces 40% fewer greenhouse gases
                             then it gives me a good reason to buy buffalo
                             steaks instead of regular beef. If your
                             solution is for everyone to become a vegan
                             then please kill yourself.
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blog.newsweek.com/blogs/labnotes/archive/2007/07/18/what-me-sacrifice-take-2.aspx
Take 2 Wednesday, July 18, 2007 2:39 PM By Sharon Begley Sacrifice is not a message most Americans want to hear when it comes to what they can do to reduce their carbon footprint; my favorite, from a party held in conjunction with the LiveEarth concerts on July 7, was to take only one napkin with your fast food, not a handful. A study from Japan offers support to more meaningful action. itself is the result of fossil fuel used to generate energy to produce and transport feed. For those who can stomach neither beef-abstinence nor the purchase of enough carbon offsets to balance their carnivory, cheer up: a 2003 study from Sweden concluded that organic beef, from cattle that eat the grass they trod rather than concentrated feed trucked to them, is responsible for 40 percent less greenhouse emissions than standard beef, and requires 85 percent less energy to produce, pound per pound.