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2007/6/26-29 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:47075 Activity:high
6/26    Another Bush Administration official convicted by a diabolical
        prosecutor and a vengeful Congress, similar to the Libby case:
        http://www.csua.org/u/j11
        \_ Uhm, no.  This guy was directly involved in a bribery scandal.
           Libby was busted for his memory of events not matching eight
           reporters memory of events which didn't match each other's
           memory of events nor their own notes nor their own prior
           testimony.  Thanks for the opportunity to correct your grave
           misunderstanding of Libby's situation, troll.
           \_ If this was really true he wouldn't have been convicted.  He
              got caught red handed, refused to turn on his boss and expose
              Cheney's treasonous crimes and so went to jail.
              \- As Mr. Uhm, no suggests, Libby was a victim of the RAHM-
                 PELOSI-JURY-REPULICAN_JUDGE-REPUBLICAN-PROSECUTOR conspiracy.
                 I think it is is pretty clear George McGovern created
                 Patrick Fitzgerald in his mountain side laboratory and
                 had him spend 30 years infiltrating the REPUBLICAN
                 ESTABLISHMENT for a moment like this. The code word
                 to activate him was "Barbarella".
                 \_ Oh yeah, forgot to mention that the prosecutor and judge
                    were both Republicans or Republican appointees.
              \_ You've heard of 'the appeals process', right?  We have that
                 because the justice system is understandably flawed.  By
                 your 'logic' we don't need an appeals process and all those
                 folks on death row should be executed immediately.  Care to
                 try again?
                 \_ You erased the much more amusing preceding material just
                    post this? Minus ten points for Slytherin.
                    \_ It wasn't amusing at all.  It was off-topic and not
                       even dailykos quality and frankly the same drivel that
                       gets posted anytime anyone here tries to have a serious
                       political discussion.  I'm trying to discuss the facts
                       of the case with the other poster, this has nothing to
                       do with anything.  It is pure noise and as such
                       provides no opportunity for intelligent discussion and
                       no, it wasn't funny the second time either.
                       \_ You presume to be arbiter of teh funny?  Being too
                          thin-skinned to take your well-deserved mockery
                          should make you rethink using motd.
                          \_ Yadda yadda blah blah blah, yadda yadda.  I see
                             there's still no reply to the real comment about
                             the appeals process, Libby's case details, etc.
                             Just whining about "my drivel got deleted, wah!"
                             I'll take that as either agreement or general
                             ignorance of what actually happened in Libby's
                             case, thanks.
                             \_ Saying "the sky is blue" doesn't really warrant
                                a reply.  Yes, it's up for appeal.  How 'bout
                                you try again after his appeals are rejected?
                                \_ So as I said, you don't know a thing about
                                   his trial and exactly how his bogus
                                   conviction came about.  I'll say it again
                                   even though I know you don't want to know
                                   the truth: he was convicted because his
                                   story didn't entirely match the stories of
                                   8 reporters.  The 8 reporters stories didn't
                                   match each other.  The 8 reporters stories
                                   didn't even match their own earlier
                                   testimony, nor their own written notes.  It
                                   was not possible for Libby's story to match
                                   the differing and ever-changing stories of
                                   8 people.  Thank you for supporting real
                                   justice and not punishing people for having
                                   political views that differ from your own.
                                   \_ You are utterly convinced that your
                                      reading of the case is correct.  Will
                                      you acknowledge you have been wrong
                                      if his appeals are denied?  Somehow, I
                                      suspect not.
                                      if his appeals are denied?
                                      And you really have an obnoxious delete
                                      finger.  Fuck off.
                       \_ Erasing other people's comments on a globally
                          editable MOTD just shows that you are too short for
                          this ride.
                          \_ Comments are erased on a daily basis.  Get over
                             it.
                             \_ What is it with people missing the point today?
                                Sure, comments are erased on a daily basis,
                                but erasing part of a thread just so you can
                                post your own POV is something else entirely.
                                Grow up.
                                \_ Bzzt, sorry.  Erasing someone else's post
                                   had no effect on posting my POV.  Try
                                   again? (y/N)__?
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Reuters Former official gets 10 months in Abramoff case By Andy Sullivan Tue Jun 26, 6:26 PM ET WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A high-ranking Bush administration official was sentenced to 10 months in prison on Tuesday for lying to Congress as it investigated a bribery scandal centered on lobbyist Jack Abramoff. But Judge Ellen Segal Huvelle said Griles had refused to take responsibility for his actions and imposed a sentence tougher than the one sought by prosecutors. "Even now, you continue to minimize and try to excuse your conduct and the nature of your misstatements," Huvelle said. Griles, 59, is the highest-ranking Bush administration official convicted in the wide-ranging bribery scandal centered around Abramoff. Griles pleaded guilty in March to lying to the Senate Indian Affairs Committee as it examined Abramoff's clout in the Interior Department. Abramoff is serving a six-year prison sentence and cooperating with investigators. Griles was introduced to Abramoff by Griles' sometime girlfriend, Italia Federici, shortly before he started at Interior. Federici has also pleaded guilty to obstructing Congress. Federici acted as a go-between for the two men as they worked together to influence Interior Department actions that affected Abramoff's Indian-tribe clients, Justice Department lawyers said. In return, Abramoff offered Griles a lucrative job and directed money to Federici's charity at Griles' request, the government said. Griles would have faced multiple felonies if he had not accepted a plea deal, Justice Department trial attorney Armando Bonilla said. Griles' lawyer said he did not intentionally lie to the Indian Affairs Committee and was being unfairly punished for working with a lobbyist whose name has become synonymous with corruption. "The stench of Jack Abramoff is everywhere and they claim Mr Griles suffers from that because he dealt with him as a lobbyist," defense attorney Barry Hartman said. A tearful Griles told Huvelle that he never asked Abramoff to contribute to Federici's charity, and said she only brought up his concerns "two or three" times. Griles is not the only official to serve prison time in the Abramoff probe. Bob Ney of Ohio is serving a 30-month prison sentence for accepting bribes, while former Bush administration procurement official David Safavian has been sentenced to 18 months in prison for lying and obstructing justice during the investigation. Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.