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2007/6/18-21 [Computer/SW/Languages/JavaScript, Computer/SW/Languages] UID:47003 Activity:moderate
6/18    Is this the end of the line for Chomskyan grammar?  The strange
        language of the Piraha
        http://www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/04/16/070416fa_fact_colapinto
        \_ Their notion of color makes more sense than ours, I think.
           Daniel Dennett talks a lot about this phenomenon, how seemingly
           atomic concepts in our language aren't really. -- ilyas
        \_ Chomsky: brilliant, or just good at getting on the rolodexes of
           anyone needing a linguistic expert?
           \_ dunno, but I read the article, I don't think you did.
           \_ You should read the article, it's really interesting.
              \_ I did, sorry! I thought it was really interesting, too.
        \_ Amazing article.
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www.newyorker.com/reporting/2007/04/16/070416fa_fact_colapinto
Feeds Dan Everett believes that Pirah undermines Noam Chomsky's idea of a universal grammar. Dan Everett believes that Pirah undermines Noam Chomsky's idea of a universal grammar. Brazil One morning last July, in the rain forest of northwestern Brazil, Dan Everett, an American linguistics professor, and I stepped from the pontoon of a Cessna floatplane onto the beach bordering the Maici River, a narrow, sharply meandering tributary of the Amazon. On the bank above us were some thirty people--short, dark-skinned men, women, and children--some clutching bows and arrows, others with infants on their hips. The people, members of a hunter-gatherer tribe called the Pirah, responded to the sight of Everett--a solidly built man of fifty-five with a red beard and the booming voice of a former evangelical minister--with a greeting that sounded like a profusion of exotic songbirds, a melodic chattering scarcely discernible, to the uninitiated, as human speech. Unrelated to any other extant tongue, and based on just eight consonants and three vowels, Pirah has one of the simplest sound systems known. Yet it possesses such a complex array of tones, stresses, and syllable lengths that its speakers can dispense with their vowels and consonants altogether and sing, hum, or whistle conversations. It is a language so confounding to non-natives that until Everett and his wife, Keren, arrived among the Pirah, as Christian missionaries, in the nineteen-seventies, no outsider had succeeded in mastering it. Everett eventually abandoned Christianity, but he and Keren have spent the past thirty years, on and off, living with the tribe, and in that time they have learned Pirah as no other Westerners have. "Xai hi gsai xigaihiabisaoaxi ti xabihai hiatihi xigo hohi," Everett said in the tongue's choppy staccato, introducing me as someone who would be "staying for a short time" in the village. The men and women answered in an echoing chorus, "Xai hi go kaisigaih xapagiso." The Pirah consider all forms of human discourse other than their own to be laughably inferior, and they are unique among Amazonian peoples in remaining monolingual. They playfully tossed my name back and forth among themselves, altering it slightly with each reiteration, until it became an unrecognizable syllable. They never uttered it again, but instead gave me a lilting Pirah name: Kaaxoi, that of a Pirah man, from a village downriver, whom they thought I resembled. "That's completely consistent with my main thesis about the tribe," Everett told me later. They just don't want it, and it's been that way since the day the Brazilians first found them in this jungle in the seventeen-hundreds." Everett, who this past fall became the chairman of the Department of Languages, Literature, and Cultures at Illinois State University, has been publishing academic books and papers on the Pirah (pronounced pee-da-HAN) for more than twenty-five years. But his work remained relatively obscure until early in 2005, when he posted on his Web site an article titled "Cultural Constraints on Grammar and Cognition in Pirah," which was published that fall in the journal Cultural Anthropology. The article described the extreme simplicity of the tribe's living conditions and culture. The Pirah, Everett wrote, have no numbers, no fixed color terms, no perfect tense, no deep memory, no tradition of art or drawing, and no words for "all," "each," "every," "most," or "few"--terms of quantification believed by some linguists to be among the common building blocks of human cognition. Everett's most explosive claim, however, was that Pirah displays no evidence of recursion, a linguistic operation that consists of inserting one phrase inside another of the same type, as when a speaker combines discrete thoughts ("the man is walking down the street," "the man is wearing a top hat") into a single sentence ("The man who is wearing a top hat is walking down the street"). Noam Chomsky, the influential linguistic theorist, has recently revised his theory of universal grammar, arguing that recursion is the cornerstone of all languages, and is possible because of a uniquely human cognitive ability. Steven Pinker, the Harvard cognitive scientist, calls Everett's paper "a bomb thrown into the party." For months, it was the subject of passionate debate on social-science blogs and Listservs. Everett, once a devotee of Chomskyan linguistics, insists not only that Pirah is a "severe counterexample" to the theory of universal grammar but also that it is not an isolated case. 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