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6/9     Romney: flip-flopper
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        \_ Maybe you can explain to me how that's a flip-flop?
           \_ maybe it's the same way that voting for an amendment that
              failed, then voting against the bill without the amendment is
              flip-flopping.
           \_ Let's see.  When it actually happened he said it was a good
              thing, but now that he's running for president on the
              "I'm oh so religious and 'moral'" ticket he says he thought
              otherwise.  Hmm.
              \_ Huh? He said "It is the policy in the military -- what, 10,
                 15 years -- and working..."  Sounds to me like he's just
                 surprised how well it's worked out.  The closest thing to a
                 flip-flop here is how he characterized his original feelings
                 about it.  Which could actually both be true as well.
              \_ Huh? You realize these two statements are not mutually
                 exclusive?  He also never says he thought gays servering in
                 the military is bad.  It's a strech to call that a flip-flop.
              \_ Oh no!  He flip-flopped on his feeling 15 year's ago! It's
                 Retcon!
                 \_ Yeah!  It's only a flip flop if you change your mind after
                    20 years or more... or is that under 10 years or less?
                    Or, if you're not a republican?  Yeah, that's it...
                 \_ Only 5 years in the case of abortion rights. He is a
                    serial flip-flopper.
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Planet Out Romney recasts stance on "don't ask, don't tell" PlanetOut Network Thu Jun 7, 9:05 PM ET SUMMARY: Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, who once said he supported "don't ask, don't tell" primarily because he felt would help guide the LGBT community to serving openly in the military, offered a different account of the policy at the New Hampshire Republican debates. Former Massachusetts governor Mitt Romney, who once said he supported "don't ask, don't tell" primarily because he felt would help guide the LGBT community to serving openly in the military, offered a different account of the policy at the New Hampshire Republican debates. "When I first heard of the 'don't ask, don't tell' policy, I thought it sounded silly and didn't think it would be effective and I was wrong," Romney said Tuesday. "It is the policy in the military -- what, 10, 15 years -- and working, and I agree that this is not the time to put in place a major change." However, in 1994, Romney held up "don't ask, don't tell" as a step in the right direction for gays and lesbians. President Clinton 's policy on gays would "ultimately lead to gays and lesbians being able to serve openly and honestly in our nation's military." Edward Kennedy, Romney added, "I am more convinced than ever before that as we seek to establish full equality for America's gay and lesbian citizens, I will provide more effective leadership." This is not the first time Romney has reconsidered his views on a hot-button social issue. In his 2002 run for governor of Massachusetts, Romney promised he would not change the state's abortion laws, despite his personal objection to them. However, during an interview with Larry King in March 2007, he said his views on abortion had evolved when the idea of human cloning came into the picture.