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2007/5/22-24 [Reference/Law/Court] UID:46723 Activity:nil
5/22    Identical Twins sleep with the same woman, neither wants to pay child
        support.
        http://abcnews.go.com/TheLaw/LegalCenter/story?id=3195632&page=1
        \_ "Look, she had a bunch of girlfriends to the rodeo and they got
           drunk and she went banging on Raymon's door trying to have sex,"
           Copeland said. "He says he did reluctantly.but I can't imagine it
           was reluctantly . and that's when the baby was conceived I guess."
           That doesn't sound like judge-talk to me.  She just handed down a
           ruling, and she ended her commend with "I guess."
           \_ It sounds like Judge Judy!
           \_ You ever been in a court?  It sounds just like a judge.  And I
              mean a real court, not watched it on TV.
              \_ I've only been to the Small Claims Court in Oakland once.
                 But the defendant didn't show up, so I won by default and the
                 judge didn't really need to explain his ruling.
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Paternity Battle Between Brothers Judge Uses Old-Fashioned Detective Work to Determine Who the Father Is Raymon Miller Raymon Miller, left, and his twin brother, Richard, have been fighting in court for four years over the paternity of a child born by a woman both men were sleeping with. Print Twin brothers Raymon and Richard Miller are the father and uncle to a 3-year-old little girl. The identical Missouri twins say they were unknowingly having sex with the same woman. And according to the woman's testimony, she had sex with each man on the same day. When the woman in question, Holly Marie Adams, got pregnant, she named Raymon the father, but he contested and demanded a paternity test, bringing his own brother Richard to court. The result of the test has not only brought to light the limits of DNA evidence, it has also led to a three-year legal battle, a Miller family feud and a little girl who may never know who her real father is. home where they had sex later that night or early the next morning," Parker said. Asked if it is true that he did at one time formally date Adams, Richard Miller told ABC News, "Well, if you call that dating." Raymon confirms that he never dated Adams in any sense, but that they were "messing around." Courtroom Double Trouble As soon as Raymon was asked to pay child support, he demanded that he and his brother both take a paternity test. When the paternity test came back with the same results, he took the matter to the courts where Judge Fred Copeland ruled that even in light of the identical DNA tests and overlapping relationships, Raymon would remain the legal father of the child. "I want to go to the Supreme Court," Raymon told ABC News. "If they can't prove it's me then they should throw it out of court." And as for the child support, he said, "The state should eat it." Miller contacted ABC News through the Law & Justice unit internet tipline. Copeland, however, notes that as the judge in the case, he does not have to depend solely on DNA evidence and can rule based on the testimony of Adams as well -- who believes she can nail down the date of conception to a night spent with Raymon. Privacy Policy/Your California Privacy Rights External links are provided for reference purposes. ABC News is not responsible for the content of external internet sites.