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5/17    emarkp how can a Mormon be pro-torture?
        http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/node/4796
        this is almost a serious, non troll Request For Comment.
        \_ What does being a Mormon have to do with it?  And what are you
           defining as torture? -emarkp
        \_ Mormons are pro-polygamy, hence pro-torture (or, more accurately,
           pro-being-tortured.)
        \_ emarkp: How can anyone who calls themselves a christian be
           pro torture? -not op
           \_ Have you actually read the bible? -dans
              \_ OT Yahweh: "Obey my rules or suffer! And this applies to you
                             all collectively, and family units collectively!
                             And cut off part of your penises!"
                 NT Jesus: "Ok those rules were unobeyable. Love me or suffer!
                            and, uh, oh yeah this is evaluated after death.
                            Btw I "died for your sins". This is important for
                            some reason. I think I have schizophrenia."
                 Allah: "Ok ok that love stuff was bs, I was smoking a lot
                         of dope back then. We're back to obey or suffer.
                         But I'm keeping the afterlife reward stuff in your
                         benefit plan. I better see you on your knees many
                         times per day, stroking my godly ego."
           \_ See above. -emarkp
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earlier today, the most surprising bit of last night's Republican debate was Gov. Mitt Romney's declaration that the United States should "double Guantanamo" and should routinely make use of what he calls "enhanced interrogation techniques." After the debate last night, Romney expanded on that thought in an interview with Sean Hannity of Fox News. watching the video in order to understand Romney's precise thinking here. It appears to be this: The nature of the enemy determines the morality with which you fight. e're dealing with terrorist nations," Romney told Hannity. Hannity then asked Romney how far he would go in torturing suspected terrorists. I don't think any president of the United States is wise to say here's how far I'll go," Romney responded. And, apparently, Romney won't be engaging in a public debate about where that line should be, either: We're not going to project the kind of line that represents torture or not torture." One has to wonder whether Romney understands the fundamental nature of the war the United States is fighting. You don't win that kind of war by sinking to the terrorists' level, or by forfeiting the principles that separate enlightened, modern society from the dark, desperate world of radical Islamists. I also worry that Romney's remarks are further evidence of how profoudly lost the Republican party is today. On the stage last night was a leading candidate for the party's nomination, droning on endlessly about his deep and profound "respect for life" --and advocating torture in the same breath. The only thing more disappointing was the room full of party faithful who seemed to miss the irony.