5/15    What's a good city with the convenience of a city (walkable
        retails, grocery, easily accessible clean young women) and the
        luxury of a suburbia (new, nice big homes, private, quiet, safe)?
        Does such a place actually exist?
        \_ If you can afford a penthouse in Manhattan or Wilshire in LA
           you'll have a huge place (3500sqft and more) that's quiet, safe,
           and is close to retails and people (young women).
           \_ If you can afford a penthouse in Manhattan or Wilshire in LA,
              you don't have to be close to young women.  Young women will come
              to you.
        \_ Never heard of such a place.  Closest would perhaps be loft
           housing in a city.
        \_ Every city has places like that, but you have to be rich to
           afford to live there. See Pacfic Heights.
        \_ Vancouver was the closest I've seen to what you describe. They
           are also in the middle of building a light rail system between
           downtown and the airport.
        \_ My home in Fremont is 10min-walk from 99 Ranch and some restaurants.
           It's 1500sqft and it's probably worth $600k now.  Don't know about
           accessibility of clean young women.
           \_ Seconded. Walkable, close to mass transit, great dim-sum,
              and lots of young & super hot HK women (and wealthy too).
        \_ My home in Fremont is 10min-walk from 99 Ranch, Walgreens,
           Albertson's and some restaurants.  It's 1500sqft and it's probably
           worth $600k now.  Don't know about accessibility of clean young
           worth $600k now.  Don't know about accessibility of white young
           women.
           \_ I'm glad you like Fremont but the positive things you pointed
              out are not unique to suburbs. Like all the other suburbs
              it is nice and quiet but it just doesn't match the convenience
              of a real city.
              \_ Many homes in the Sunset and Richmond districts in SF are not
                 walkable to grocery stores or restaurants.
                 \_ This is not really true, in that there is no place in
                    the Sunset that is more than 1 mile from a restaurant.
                    But some places are pretty far, so far that walking to
                    your grocery store is not really an option. But everyplace
                    in the Sunset and Richmond has a bus within a few blocks.
                    The Richmond is actually very well served by retail, by
                    the way.
        \_ generally economics prevent retail and 'new big homes'.
           single-family homes don't provide the population density for retail
           places to be profitable within walking distance, for  a reasonable
           definition of 'walking distance'.
        \_ Cupertino
           \_ Far from mass transit. Too insulated, you don't meet hot
              young women. You can't walk to grocery and other retails.
              Cupertino has all the great amenities of a suburb but it
              does not have the convenience of a big city.
              \_ Safeway is like less than 1 mile from my house and
                 Target/Trader Joes/AMC Saratoga are like 1.5 miles
                 from my house as is the Cupertino Library and a bunch
                 of food places on De Anza and Stevens Creek. Generally
                 I can get around w/ my bike and there is plenty of bus
                 service.
                 \_ Yeah but it's not nice to walk/bike around. Busy
                    wide streets and typical huge parking lots. De Anza
                    is not walkable at all.
                    \_ This is a point worth emphasizing; a walking district
                       isn't just "services within walking distance."  A street
                       isn't a walking district just because it's not far from
                       a WalMart; when you walk in an urban walking district,
                       you interact with community members and shop owners,
                       see unexpected things, and get pleasure from the
                       simple act of walking.  Walking on big streets to
                       big box stores where you buy stuff on auto-pilot and
                       do self-checkout does not replace urban living.  -tom
                       \_ Narrow minded. Stupid. Or both.
                          You completely failed to realize that most of the
                          patriotic Americans do not want or care about
                          interactions with strangers and bums in the city,
                          and all the inconveniences that go with urban
                          living like pollution, drugs, crimes, etc. People
                          value safety, privacy, and better quality of
                          living (more living space, newer environment,
                          cleaner) over all those things you mentioned.
                          \_ Spoken steeped in suburban privilege.  You
                             are clearly too short for this discussion.
           \_ HAHAHAHAHA... thanks for the good laugh...
        \_ You do understand you are asking for contradictory things, right?
           Walkable with close retail implies high density, while private
           with big homes implies low density.