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5/15 Rot in hell, you fucking traitorous son of a whore: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/obituaries/15cnd-falwell.html?_r=1&hp& oref=slogin Falwell finally does something to make the world a better place by dying. \_ will there be hookers in heaven for him? \_ Liberty University is in Lynchburg? Is that appropriate or ironic? \_ Ah, the hatred of the left is always so sad to see. \_ There are plenty of people I dislike that I'll gladly give dignity in death. Falwell was much beyond that. Falwell was a religious facist who justly deserves his place with hell. Good fucking riddance to a powerful man who blamed AIDS on society accepting gays as people. Good fucking riddance to a powerful man who blamed 9/11 on feminism and atheism. Good fucking riddance to a man worked hard to destroy my fundemental religious and moral freedoms. Burn Falwell burn. \_ Though the right is chock full of hate--more so than the left ever has been. \_ Keep asserting it, it's a nice security blanket. \_ Especially when it's true. \_ I don't know if you can really say that. "The left" has massacred lots of people over the last 100 years. Maybe you meant to say "the left in the United States" or "the left today." -lefty \_ I was talking about hate, not deaths--but you could argue that the Christian invasion of the New World and Africa was an activity of the "right", and that caused more deaths than the left's recent activities. \_ Well, I am not going to get into all that. Colonialism has probably killed more than Communism, true. But the point is that the left has had plenty of hate at times in the past, so your claim that the right [today] is more hateful than the left has at any time in history is a pretty extreme one and wrong, imo. \_ Agreed, as is the hypocrisy of the right. \_ Well, hypocrisy on any side. \_ And the hatred of either. \_ The left hates Falwell because of his hate, not because he's black or poor or jewish or short or fat or tall or skinny or whatever. \_ You make a career out of demonizing certain people, don't be surprised when those people don't like you. \_ On AIDS: AIDS is the wrath of a just God against homosexuals. On the Antichrist: [He] will, by necessity, be a Jewish male. On the separation of church and state: The idea that religion and politics don't mix was invented by the devil to keep Christians from running their own country. And, of course, on the September 11th attacks: I really believe that the pagans, and the abortionists, and the feminists, and the gays and the lesbians who are actively trying to make that an alternative lifestyle, the ACLU, People For the American Way, all of them who have tried to secularize America. I point the finger in their face and say 'you helped this happen.' |
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www.nytimes.com/2007/05/15/obituaries/15cnd-falwell.html?_r=1&hp& Jerry Falwell, the fundamentalist preacher who founded the Moral Majority and helped bring the language and passions of religious conservatives into American politics, died today shortly after he was found unconscious in his office at Liberty University in Lynchburg, Va. Enlarge This Image Mark Humphrey/Associated Press The Rev. Mr Falwell had a history of heart problems, and probably died of cardiac arrythmia, his physician, Dr. Mr Falwell had no pulse when he was found, the doctor said, and efforts to revive him at the university and on the way to the hospital were unsuccessful. Moore said Mr Falwell was pronounced dead at 12:40 pm Eastern time. The universitys executive vice president, Ronald Godwin, told a news conference this afternoon that he had had breakfast with Mr Falwell at 8:30 am, and said the university mourns his loss. Falwell is a huge, huge leader here in this area and in the nation at large," Dr. Mr Falwell went from being a Baptist preacher in Lynchburg to carving out a powerful role in national electoral politics. He was at home in both the millennial world of fundamentalist Christianity and the earthly blood sport of the political arena. He came to prominence first as a televangelist, through his Old-Time Gospel Hour programs, and then as the leader of the Moral Majority, an organization whose very name drew a vivid, divisive battle line in the sand of American politics. Ronald Reagan before him, mobilizing conservatives and finding his way into a thicket of controversies. Mr Falwell grew up in a household that he described as a battleground between the forces of God and the powers of Satan. In his public life he often had to walk a fine line between the certitudes of fundamentalist religion, in which the word of God was absolute and inviolate, and the ambiguities of mainstream politics, in which a message warmly received at his Thomas Road Baptist Church might not play as well on the NBC Nightly News. As a result, he was a lightning rod for controversy and caricature. abortion and supporters of gay rights, and after he called Muhammad a terrorist. He was ridiculed for an article in his National Liberty Journal that suggested that Tinky Winky, a character in the Teletubbies childrens show, could be a hidden homosexual signal, because the character was purple, had a triangle on its head and carried a handbag. But behind the controversies was a shrewd, savvy operator with an original vision for affecting political and moral change. He rallied religious conservatives to the political arena at a time when most fundamentalists and other conservative religious leaders were inclined to stay away, and helped pulled off what once seemed the impossible task of uniting religious conservatives from many faiths and doctrines over what they had in common, rather than focusing on the differences that kept them apart. But political experts agree he was an enormously influential figure. Behind the idea of the Moral Majority was this notion that there could be a coalition of these different religious groups that all agree on abortion and homosexuality and other issues even if they never agreed on how to read the Bible or the nature of God, said John Green, director of the Ray C Bliss Institute of Applied Politics at the University of Akron, who studies the religious conservative movement. And even if thats an idea that did not completely originate with Falwell, its certainly an idea he developed and championed independently of others. It was a very important insight, and its had a huge influence on American politics. His ancestors there dated back to 1669, and his more immediate ones lived as if they were characters in the pageant of sin and redemption that formed his world view. His paternal grandfather, Charles William Falwell, embittered by the death of his wife and a favorite nephew, was a vocal and decisive atheist who would not go to church, and who ridiculed those who did. His father, Carey H Falwell, was a flamboyant entrepreneur who opened his first grocery store when he was 22. Soon he was operating 17 service stations, many with little restaurants and stores attached. He built oil storage tanks, owned an oil company, and in 1927 founded American Bus Lines, which installed old battery-operated movie projectors to show Charlie Chaplin and Laurel and Hardy movies to riders. Tips To find reference information about the words used in this article, double-click on any word, phrase or name. A new window will open with a dictionary definition or encyclopedia entry. |