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2007/4/30-5/2 [Science/GlobalWarming] UID:46481 Activity:nil
4/30    Woman must pay $2000 to clean up broken CFL bulb.
        http://csua.org/u/iky
        \_ This article is a load of crappe.  It's probably
           still a good idea to remove mercury from CFL though
           \_ Sure it would be "good" to remove mercury from CFL, but
              zero point energy would also be "good."  Doesn't mean it's
              happening anytime soon.
        \_ Holy crap.  I realize mercury might be necessary to get such
           crazy efficiency, but why oh why would you distribute that much
           of it.  It seems like a huge liability which puts a lot of people
           and the environment at risk. -mrauser
           \_ The article is a little confusing, but part of the point was
              5 mg of mercury is nothing.  Requiring a HAZMAT to clean
              up a CFL is ludicous.  However, the factory creating the
              bulbs may contaminate it's vicinity, and the bulbs may
              contaminate landfills.  So it's also ironic that groups with
              a history of over-the-top mercury scaremongering are now
              pushing CFLs.
              \_ In the U.S., most mercury contamination comes from...
                 <wait for it>...coal-burning electrical plants!
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More Driving Stories The CFL mercury nightmare Steven Milloy, Financial Post Published: Saturday, April 28, 2007 How much money does it take to screw in a compact fluorescent light bulb? Perhaps no more than the stampede to ban the incandescent light bulb in favour of compact fluorescent light bulbs (CFLs). According to an April 12 article in The Ellsworth American, Bridges had the misfortune of breaking a CFL during installation in her daughter's bedroom: It dropped and shattered on the carpeted floor. The store told her that the CFL contained mercury and that she should call the Poison Control hotline, which in turn directed her to the Maine Department of Environmental Protection. MORE BREAKING BUSINESS NEWS The DEP sent a specialist to Bridges' house to test for mercury contamination. The specialist found mercury levels in the bedroom in excess of six times the state's "safe" level for mercury contamination of 300 billionths of a gram per cubic meter. The DEP specialist recommended that Bridges call an environmental cleanup firm, which reportedly gave her a "low-ball" estimate of US$2,000 to clean up the room. The room then was sealed off with plastic and Bridges began "gathering finances" to pay for the US$2,000 cleaning. Reportedly, her insurance company wouldn't cover the cleanup costs because mercury is a pollutant. Given that the replacement of incandescent bulbs with CFLs in the average US household is touted as saving as much as US$180 annually in energy costs -- and assuming that Bridges doesn't break any more CFLs -- it will take her more than 11 years to recoup the cleanup costs in the form of energy savings. The potentially hazardous CFL is being pushed by companies such as Wal-Mart, which wants to sell 100 million CFLs at five times the cost of incandescent bulbs during 2007, and, surprisingly, environmentalists. It's quite odd that environmentalists have embraced the CFL, which cannot now and will not in the foreseeable future be made without mercury. Given that there are about five billion light bulb sockets in North American households, we're looking at the possibility of creating billions of hazardous waste sites such as the Bridges' bedroom. Usually, environmentalists want hazardous materials out of, not in, our homes. These are the same people who go berserk at the thought of mercury being emitted from power plants and the presence of mercury in seafood. Environmentalists have whipped up so much fear of mercury among the public that many local governments have even launched mercury thermometer exchange programs. As the activist group Environmental Defense urges us to buy CFLs, it defines mercury on a separate part of its Web site as a "highly toxic heavy metal that can cause brain damage and learning disabilities in fetuses and children" and as "one of the most poisonous forms of pollution." Greenpeace also recommends CFLs while simultaneously bemoaning contamination caused by a mercury-thermometer factory in India. Not in the United States, under strict environmental regulation. CFLs are made in India and China, where environmental standards are virtually non-existent. And let's not forget about the regulatory nightmare in the US known as the Superfund law, the EPA regulatory program best known for requiring expensive but often needless cleanup of toxic waste sites, along with endless litigation over such cleanups. We'll eventually be disposing billions and billions of CFL mercury bombs. Much of the mercury from discarded and/or broken CFLs is bound to make its way into the environment and give rise to Superfund liability, which in the past has needlessly disrupted many lives, cost tens of billions of dollars and sent many businesses into bankruptcy. As each CFL contains five milligrams of mercury, at the Maine "safety" standard of 300 nanograms per cubic meter, it would take 16,667 cubic meters of soil to "safely" contain all the mercury in a single CFL. While CFL vendors and environmentalists tout the energy cost savings of CFLs, they conveniently omit the personal and societal costs of CFL disposal. Not only are CFLs much more expensive than incandescent bulbs and emit light that many regard as inferior to incandescent bulbs, they pose a nightmare if they break and require special disposal procedures. Yet governments (egged on by environmentalists and the Wal-Marts of the world) are imposing on us such higher costs, denial of lighting choice, disposal hassles and breakage risks in the name of saving a few dollars every year on the electric bill? He is a junk-science expert and advocate of free enterprise, and an adjunct scholar at the Competitive Enterprise Institute.