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4/27 Special psb motd emergency post, top 50 restuarants in the world rated. http://tinyurl.com/25ckhk French Laundry in Yountville scores the number 4 spot \_ "Alice Waters, the founder of Chez Panisse, in Berkeley, California, received the Lifetime Achievement award." Chez Panisse was rated #40, which goes to show that the list is suspect. Chez Panisse is very good, but no longer #40 good. Maybe if it was still in the 1970s... \_ Is this you: http://eastbay.citysearch.com/saved/userprofile/gastronome1 \_ No. I think Chez Panisse is a very good restaurant, but what was groundbreaking in 1971 is not groundbreaking in 2007. Same might go for Spago or whatever. I find it interesting that 'Nobu' in London is so highly rated, too. I've been to his restaurants in Aspen and LA and... I dunno. My opinion is that making this list is an indicator of PAST success, not current success. I found that true in New Orleans as well when I went recently. Once people are successful, they rest on their laurels. What 30 years go was incredible (Chez Panisse's insistence on organic produce) is more mundane now. The bar keeps being raised. \_ Is food really that much better than it was 30 years ago? Is the future really always brighter than the past? \_ You are missing the point, which is that expectations keep getting higher. \_ Expectations of what? How much altitude the food should have? \_ Expectations of what constitutes fine cuisine/dining. Lots of restaurants that were considered gourmet in their day would now seem to be putrid in comparison to competition. Not only have menus and tastes changed, but access to top quality ingredients has improved and consumers' for demand them has increased. \_ What are other restaurants providing that Chez Panisse is not? Having food stacked six inches off your plate is not innovation, it's pretension. \_ You are asking the wrong question, which should be: "What is Chez Panisse providing that other restaurants are not?" There's not much to distinguish it anymore. \_ Expectations of how good the food tastes or something else? \_ Both. Expectations of what constitutes a "top restaurant" includes ingredients, menu, ambience, decor, service, and so on. While in some areas expectations are little changed (e.g. service, which has probably actually gotten a bit worse over time) in other areas (e.g. quality of ingredients) consumers are a lot more sophisticated. Some of the things Chez Panisse did were groundbreaking or trendsetting at the time, but are now status quo. Give Chez Panisse the credit for innovating, but at the same time recognize that without continued innovation (of which I believe there has not been much of at Chez Panisse in years) other restaurants have matched or beaten it at its own game while also contributing more in a culinary sense and as a dining experience as a whole. \- i think this is a stupid list, but i'm not especially outraged about it. here is the "spatial distribution" http://tinyurl.com/33tlwk i really doubt the place in new delhi is that great. although supposedly the chef used to cook kabobs on the street, which is a pretty good story. also it may be the cheepest place on the list. |
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tinyurl.com/25ckhk -> www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601088&sid=aBUiyvcrfNmo&refer=home Bloomberg Press El Bulli Voted Best Restaurant in World, Beating the Fat Duck By Richard Vines April 23 (Bloomberg) -- El Bulli, Ferran Adria's gastronomic temple in northern Spain, is the best restaurant in the world, followed by the UK's Fat Duck, both for the second year in a row, Restaurant magazine announced tonight in London. Pierre Gagnaire, in Paris, was third, followed by the French Laundry, in Yountville, California; All top six are unchanged from last year, when El Bulli overtook the Fat Duck. El Bulli and Heston Blumenthal's Fat Duck are known for innovative cuisine. The SPellegrino World's 50 Best Restaurants are picked by 22 panels of food writers, critics and chefs. Ferran Adria is often talked about as the most influential chef since Escoffier,'' Restaurant Editor Joe Warwick said in a telephone interview. The Fat Duck is situated at Bray, about 30 miles west of London. The top restaurants in the British capital were Nobu in 17th place, Hakkasan (19th) and Gordon Ramsay Royal Hospital Road (24th). Paris Leads With Nine Paris is the city with the largest number of eateries in the top 50, with a total of nine; France is the top country, with the US second, the UK third, and Spain and Italy tied for fourth. Alice Waters, the founder of Chez Panisse, in Berkeley, California, received the Lifetime Achievement award. The Breakthrough award went to Ramsay's Maze restaurant, in London, which was voted No. The Readers' Choice award went to Pied a Terre, London, where chef Shane Osborn holds two Michelin stars. Les Ambassadeurs France Lifetime Achievement Alice Waters Breakthrough Award Maze, London Readers' Choice Pied a Terre, London (Richard Vines is London food critic for Bloomberg News. |
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