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4/21 Cho bought ammo clips on eBay. His user name was Blazers5505@hotmail.com
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18246522
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback&userid=Blazers5505
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140098812797
\_ And... ? http://www.gunbroker.com http://www.auctionarms.com provide far
better auction houses for gun stuff. Besides he could have
bought some Schrer 33 round mags for the Glock 18 for $28
from http://www.topglock.com I have some stamped LE/Military use only
\_ Is it legal to mail order stuff like this in CA? Gun laws are
confusing. Is there some place with ALL of the issues laid out
clearly for each state?
\_ You can't legally buy (or import) magazines with greater
than a ten-round capacity in California. Although the federal
ban expired, California has its own ban. Most of the
magazines stamped for law enforcement or military use only
were manufactured during the federal ban. The California DOJ
has a section on firearms law on its web site that is
reasonably useful. The CRPA puts out a booklet on the new
firearms laws for the state every year. If you don't mind
the annoyingly low reading level, there's a book called "How
to Own a Gun and Stay out of Jail: California Edition" by
John Machtinger that gets updated every year that spells out
what the intersection of state and federal laws means for
California residents (though it doesn't attempt to cover
local ordinances, such as Berekeley's ban on rifles that
local ordinances, such as Berkeley's ban on rifles that
accept detachable magazines). --alawrenc
\_ Thanks. I'll have to read through this stuff...
http://www.ag.ca.gov/firearms
\_ Incidentally, one of the consequences of California's
ban on full capacity magazines has been that it makes
it illegal for servicemen to supplement their
equipment before deploying overseas from a base in
California. It's routine for soldiers to buy extra
gear to supplement what they're issued, including
magazines for their rifles and sidearms. California's
full capacity magazine ban only makes an exemption for
law enforcement, not for active duty military personnel.
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| www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18246522 Tech shooter bought ammo clips on eBay Cho's account also shows he sold books, sports tickets, a calculator MSNBC News Services BLACKSBURG, Va. He unloaded tickets to Hokies football and basketball games. But what Seung-Hui Cho bought on the online auction site is perhaps the most revealing. Just three weeks before he committed the worst mass shooting in modern US history, Cho purchased ammunition clips for one of the types of gun he used in the bloody rampage that claimed the lives of 33 people, including his own. The items Cho bought and sold online -- which also included horror-themed books -- helped reveal more about the 23-year-old killer on Saturday, as investigators continued poring over computer files to determine what motivated him. A search warrant affidavit filed Friday stated that investigators wanted to search Cho's e-mail accounts, including the address . An eBay user with a Blacksburg address had the same name, and a company spokesman confirmed that it was Cho. Gun accessories, books, a calculator Blazers5505 bought two 10-round magazines for a Walther P22 -- one of two handguns used in the massacre. The clips were bought March 22 from a gun shop in Idaho -- a transaction that was legal. "It's apparent that he purchased the empty magazine clips," eBay spokesman Hani Durzy said. "They're similar to what could be purchased at any sporting goods store around the country." Virginia State Police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said investigators are "aware of the eBay activity that mirrors" the Hotmail account. On March 23, Cho apparently made a purchase from a seller named "oneclickshooting," who sells gun accessories and other items. On other occasions, he sold a calculator that contained several games, along with many books about violence, death and mayhem. Several of those books were used in his English classes. "The calculator was used for less than one semester then I dropped the class," the seller wrote. Durzy also confirmed that Cho sold books and tickets to sporting events. That means he received one negative rating from people he dealt with on eBay, compared with 65 positive. "Good buyer, prompt payment, valued customer, highly recommended," wrote one user who sold an item to Cho. Cho apparently left user ratings of his own, usually terse statements such as "Honest. Good to work with," "Good buyer," and "Have not received item. Online dealings called very revealing' The eBay account demonstrates the prime role computer forensics and other digital information have played in the investigation. Authorities are examining the personal computers found in Cho's dorm room and seeking his cell-phone records. An examination of a computer is "very revealing, particularly for a person like this," said Mark Rasch of FTI Consulting, a computer and electronic investigation firm. particularly with people who are very uncommunicative in person, is that they may be much more communicative and free to express themselves with the anonymity that computers and the Internet give you." com, several books were listed for sale under the screen name "blazers5505." They include "Men, Women, and Chainsaws" by Carol J Clover, a book that explores gender in the modern horror film. Others include "The Best of HP Lovecraft: Bloodcurdling Tales of Horror and the Macabre," by HP Lovecraft; and "The Female of the Species: Tales of Mystery and Suspense" by Joyce Carol Oates -- a book in which the publisher writes: "In these and other gripping and disturbing tales, women are confronted by the evil around them and surprised by the evil they find within themselves." Books by those three authors were taught in his Contemporary Horror class, meaning he could have been merely selling the used books at the end of the semester. eBay says guns, ammo not for sale Durzy, the eBay spokesman, said the company has been assisting investigators since the start of the case. "Within 24 hours, after Cho's identity was made public, we had reached out to law enforcement to offer our assistance in any investigation," he said. "In looking at his activity on the site, we can confirm that at no point that he used eBay to purchase any guns and ammunition. It is strongly against eBay policy to try to sell guns and ammunition." Complete coverage: Massacre at Virginia Tech Andy Koch, Cho's roommate from 2005-06, said he never saw Cho receive or send a package, although he didn't have much contact with him. Students can sign up for a free lottery on a game-by-game basis, and the tickets are free. "We told him to sign up for the lottery, and he went and he left like in the third quarter, and that was it. Cho's computers likely will hold records of any e-mail communications he had. But they could also show the topics he researched, online purchases he made, his essays and diaries and photos. "This guy wanted to leave a trail," said Rasch, the computer security adviser. A CHANCE TO SAY FAREWELL April 21: Across the country, there were painful farewells Saturday to many of the students and faculty gunned down in Monday's rampage at Virginia Tech. Shooting massacre message board: "There's lots of talk about what happened. Let's pray that there is some action taken that will help prevent this from ever happening again. Some things have been done over the years by the parents who lost children at Columbine, but obviously not enough. Hopefully all of those scarred by this will heal in time and America will find a way to deal with it in the future." |
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