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4/17 HAW HAW HAW "Even if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students." --Debbie Schlussel, after initially blaming the attack on a "Paki" http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html \_ The comments on her pages are amusing, and her habit of responding IN ALL CAPS TO ALL OF THEM is even better http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/virginia_tech_s.html#comments http://urltea.com/dxr (debbieschlussel.com) \_ I keep trying to come up with something to say here and fail every damn time. Some things can not be improved upon. \_ Who the fuck is Debbie Schlussel? \_ Blonde haired, blue eyed "Conservative political commentator, radio talk show host, columnist, and attorney." Ann Coulter wannabe of sorts. Also claims to be an "expert" on "Islamic terrorism." \_ It's easy to kill bunches of people almost anywhere. I think even jihadists realize that. The problem is that public opinion is not so good toward your cause when you do so. \_ The best parts of that blog post are the comments. My god the insanity is delicious. \_ Yeah, ol' Debbie's site might be even more entertaining than freep. \_ Why do you care? Who is this person? An AC clone? No one cares about her, why should anyone care about an unknown third rater? |
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www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/who_is_the_asia.html jpg How could there be only one shooter--who was able to go a half mile away to commit a second set of shootings? Were there two and was this a coordinated terrorist attack? And wondering why the police and media are referring to the shooter as "Asian" and not by specific nationality. If I were Asian, I'd be legitimately upset with this broad generalization of the mass murderer's identity. Why am I speculating that the "Asian" gunman is a Pakistani Muslim? Because law enforcement and the media strangely won't tell us more specifically who the gunman is. Even if it does not turn out that the shooter is Muslim, this is a demonstration to Muslim jihadists all over that it is extremely easy to shoot and kill multiple American college students. cgi/2269 Comments If it does turn out to be another Muslim immigrant attack, the Lieberal MSM and our cowardly political mis-leaders will try to bury the truth. They will never face the truth about the Muslim threat to our lives and freedom. at April 16, 2007 03:41 PM The entire premise behind this blog is sickening. And what if it turns out to be a Vietnamese American Catholic? Whats sad is the first thing you find to leech on to is the idea of some sort of form of Terrorism. Your cowardly political mis-leaders were able to brainwash you poor sheep into the ideas that you all hold so firm and true: Any thing that ever goes wrong, blame the minorities - either color, religion, sex, or what ever... at April 16, 2007 03:47 PM Jack, It seems reasonable to assume that, by now, federal and state law enforcement know the identity of the dead shooter. If so, we can assume they'd tell us if he wasn't a Muslim -- because the powers that be in our country are desperate to minimize the fear of terrorism and avoid any "backlash" against Muslims. So the silence is suggestive, if not conclusive, that this guy either is Muslim or has ties to Islamic extremism. But anyone who is aware of the numerous terror plots by home-grown Muslims (perhaps you aren't) would realize that Debbie's speculations are hardly out of bounds. at April 16, 2007 04:11 PM I just heard a reporter say that at least half the students at Virginia Tech are from China and India which I find shocking. Is it the norm for an American University to have so many foreign students? And, Debbie, if the shooter does turn out to be Muslim you can rest assured the Media will do it's very best to cover up this fact. at April 16, 2007 04:16 PM Please feel free to keep your ass firmly inserted in your ass Jack Spayed, your constitutional right! What is sladerous about recognizing that an "Asian man" is a very peculiar description of the assailant? not even after the story was over, reported the Islamic background of the shooter. If the media in this country were not such LIARS, I don't think that so many people would be automatically suspicious. at April 16, 2007 04:33 PM How can they know for sure its not part of a plot and there are others who will attack tomorrow? Suppose he had a personal motive, but got help from a friend who had access to weapons, ammo and some training? How can they know that the friend didn't coordinate another attack tomorrow or next week at another place here or there? Its been talked about that a sequence of attacks would create more fear and panic. at April 16, 2007 04:59 PM In 1989 Marc Lapine killed 14 women at a school in Montreal. Now that's a normal sounding French-Canadian name, isn't it? Turns out he's the son of an Algerian Muslim immigrant who hated women. at April 16, 2007 05:00 PM YOUR BELIEF SYSTEM IS FLAWED. Either term is correct only in the sense that it conveys the same meaning. The fact that you believe the two terms are equivalent says more about you than anything else. It is intellectually dishonest and lazy to use a racial invective when a more neutral term is both available and equally descriptive. AND WHERE WERE YOU WHEN DICK CHENEY AND NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR FRAN TOWNSEND CALLED THEM PAKIS? SORRY, BUT WE HAVE NO USE FOR THE IMUS THOUGHT POLICE HERE. at April 16, 2007 05:36 PM Freudianslippers, the high percentage of foreign students at VT amd other technical schools is due primarily to the laziness of America's youth. Should Debbie's conjectures prove correct I hope we'll see some long-overdue deportations begin. If not and this is another OKC-like, home-grown freak nothing useful will come of it. at April 16, 2007 07:47 PM >>Because law enforcement and the media strangely won't tell us more specifically who the gunman is. Well, as it stands, this person committed the crime about 11 hours ago. Presumably, now that he's dead, law enforcement is probably tied up trying to deal with the people who are still living, and are waiting for a coroners report and identification of the shooter. at April 16, 2007 08:07 PM Would someone please explain to me why, if the shooter turns out to be a Muslim, the "Liberal Media" would try to bury the story? I mean, that would completly discredit Bush's stance on "We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here". at April 16, 2007 08:12 PM "Paki" is defitely used as a very offensive racial slur, equivalent in the UK to "the N word". That's why there was such an outcry when GWB used it in a speech. You can debate the etymology of the word all you want, but if a word is used by racists as a racial slur then it is by definition a racial slur. I have heard it used first-hand against an Asian friend of mine. Please remove this word from your site as I find it very offensive. at April 16, 2007 08:36 PM Ms Schussel, you are a empty-souled, vampiric monster. FYI, BLOOD IS NOT KOSHER, SO IT IS AGAINST MY RELIGION TO BECOME A VAMPIRE. YOU ARE IN AN EXCLUSIVE AND DISTINGUISHED CLUB OF SPITTERS, LIKE THE REV. at April 16, 2007 08:41 PM Would someone please explain to me why, if the shooter turns out to be a Muslim, the "Liberal Media" would try to bury the story? I mean, that would completly discredit Bush's stance on "We have to fight them over there so we don't have to fight them over here". Posted by: D*Rek at April 16, 2007 08:12 PM D*Rek, If you are asking this as a serious question you are obviously a newbie here--but welcome. If you were to take some time and go to the archives on this DS site, you will find stories galore about the kind of MSM (main stream media) ignoring/masking that goes on daily. For example the February rampage at the Minnesota mall--we all were fed " a disturbed youth" --nowhere in the MSM did we hear about this murderer's real ROP heritage. at April 16, 2007 08:58 PM UH, ACTUALLY IT ISN'T A RACIAL SLUR. AND WHERE WERE YOU WHEN DICK CHENEY AND NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR FRAN TOWNSEND CALLED THEM PAKIS? "Paki" is an ethnic slur, not just a convenient shorthand for Pakistani. President Bush (for example) created quite a controversy when he used it in a speech (as documented in The Toronto Globe & Mail, 08/01/02). Do you seriously believe that Cheney's use of the term makes it not an ethnic slur? At least have the decency to admit you unnecessarily rushed to judgment about an entire group of individuals, and used a racist term in the process. MY NAME IS DEBBIE SCHLUSSEL, NOT DON IMUS IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO FALL ALL OVER THEMSELVES IN SHAME AND GROVELLING FOR YOUR FORGIVENESS FOR SAYING SOMETHING YOU FIND OFFENSIVE, GO TO THE IMUS HOME ALSO, THIS IS NOT MSNBC OR CBS RADIO. IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE TO CAVE INTO YOUR THOUGHT-POLICE ORTHODOXY LIKE A WET NOODLE, THE OWNER AND OPERATOR OF THIS SITE--ALSO ME--IS NOT WHAT YOU ARE SEEKING. at April 16, 2007 09:14 PM Please excuse my Israeli cynicism, but, I am ready tho throw up as the "officials" begin to declare the attack as "not terror related". at April 16, 2007 09:28 PM Once the photo of the shooter is released, won't that make it impossible to coverup his ethnicity? Nice little 'out', DS, making it ok for you whether he's Muslim or not. More alarming to me is that anyone has access to that kind of weaponry. at April 16, 2007 09:36 PM Robert4, maybe you meant to respond to me, not Lexi. 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www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/virginia_tech_s.html#comments Chicago Tribune reports that Virginia Tech University massacre perpetrator, Cho Seung-Hui, died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on one of his arms. Ismail--the Arabic name for Ishmael--considered the father of all Arabs and a very important figure in Islam. Or maybe he wanted to remind himself to buy an Ax for his friend Ismail for next Ramadan. Or I'm sure we'll hear some other similarly absurd "explanation." cgi/2276 Comments I've seen a Christian with a verse in Hebrew from the Book of Ruth tattooed on his arm. Also an irreligious, multi-piercing type with the entire Hebrew alphabet tattooed. at April 17, 2007 01:18 PM Debbie, the same article you quote from also mentions that the kid was clearly off his rocker. He was seriously disturbed -- mentally ill with a growing taste for violence, rage, and death. He'd been referred to Student Health Services and was already under investigation for several earlier incidents, all signs of how unglued this kid was. Trying to tie him to either illegal immigration -- he was here legally -- or Islamic terrorism -- he was an English major, for Cthulhu's sake -- is the epitome of opportunism on your part. I'd point out you should be ashamed of yourself, but then you are a lawyer... THE SAME MEDIA THAT ALSO CONSTANTLY SAYS THAT EVERY ISLAMIC ATTACKER IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS BEEN "NUTS"--A/K/A SUDDEN JIHAD SYNDROME THE MUSLIMS WHO ATTACKED THE SEATTLE JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER, THE JEW AT THE BALTIMORE MOVIE THEATER, THE STUDENTS AT UNC, TROLLEY SQUARE MALL IN UTAH--THEY WERE ALL "NUTS." THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD BE ASHAMED HERE IS THE ONE WHO IS WILLINGLY WEARING BLINDERS AS HIS/HER NEWEST FASHION ACCESSORY: YOU. This would make sense since he was apparently an engineering student. I WENT TO THIS PAGE AND THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO "ISMAIL AX." ONLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ACADEMICS WITH ISMAIL IN THEIR NAMES ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE TO "ISMAIL AX" ON THE PAGE. at April 17, 2007 01:38 PM The "asian" shooter was probably a muslim convert. Then again there are alot of asian muslims, a good portion of them have ties with these terror organizations but as usual, the feckless puppet anchormen/women running the media won't cover that one for you just as they didn't do so with the Utah Mall shooter's ethnic backround. at April 17, 2007 02:04 PM Ax is actually a Dutch surname, maybe he's a militant Calvinist upset at the falling price of tulip bulbs and windmill spare-parts. YES, AND ISMAIL AND AHMED AND MOHAMMED ARE "DUTCH," TOO. at April 17, 2007 02:27 PM isn't it possible that he was referring to Ishmael from Moby Dick? the name Ishmael or Ismail can also reprensent being orphaned, exiled, etc. which actually makes a heck of a lot of sense, considering the source. i think this is as likely an explanation as anythign else i've seen here today. SOMETHING WHICH I'M SURE MOST SOUTH KOREANS DO EVERY DAY. at April 17, 2007 02:32 PM see atlas "By Allah, he said, I shall plot a plan to destroy their idols. Ismail said without hesitation: "Do what you are commanded, you shall find me very patient insha Allah He said to the statues, joking; then with his ax he destroyed all the statues except one, the biggest of them. I wonder if it belongs to the shooter and if the cops are looking into it." Good to see that canuckSteve hasn't grown any new brain cells recently. A simple 'whois' search would have shown you the website was registered a couple of hours ago, so its an opportunist. ORG Created On:17-Apr-2007 16:51:46 UTC Last Updated On:17-Apr-2007 16:51:51 UTC Expiration Date:17-Apr-2008 16:51:46 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. com/photos/eldarossell/203788467 posted last year shows an asian fellow that shares the killers original name and states that he goes by Ismail because it's easier to pronounce. Don't jump to conclusions and make yourselves look like (bigger)asses. Wait until something definitive is announced, and then go nuts. I'm going to be laughing for days if it turns out that this kid had nothing to do Islam and you guys are exposed as the raving lunatics you are. IF I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS A LUNATIC, I WOULDN'T BE THEIR LOYAL READER FOR TWO YEARS. at April 17, 2007 02:48 PM Anybody that arms himself to the teeth and takes out 33 people is a TERRORIST. It matters not whether he's a mooselim, a pentecostal, or a scientologist. It's not as if we find a link to Al Queida, we can suddenly convince leftist moonbats that there is a clear and present danger. but that doesn't excuse the act or explain the motivation. The fact that we aren't being shown the "disturbing note" could mean that there is some Islamic-type ranting in it. OR, MORE LIKELY, a guy who became very disturbed listening to or reading radical Islamic teachings. at April 17, 2007 03:11 PM Terrorists aren't necessarily "card-carrying" members of an organization. Bin Laden and his head honchos have ordered "all Muslims" to carry out Jihad against the West (translated as "kill or convert EVERYONE who is not a fundamentalist Muslim"). A sole terrorist is just as much a terrorist as one who acts with others if he/she kills innocent people in the name of Allah. at April 17, 2007 03:25 PM "I'm going to be laughing for days if it turns out that this kid had nothing to do Islam and you guys are exposed as the raving lunatics you are. Posted by: ConservativesLovePuns(descent) " If I am incorrect, I'll just apologize, receive diversity training, and get in line. Then again, people laughed at the "Night Stalker" when he said "Satan commanded me." at April 17, 2007 03:26 PM I love this line of reasoning; we don't know what it means, so we're just going to go with Islam being the cause of the Virginia Tech massacre. Because they won't show the note, that means it must be in Arabic? How does that make those of you that live in Detroit and Virginia feel? Next thing you know you're going to go back and tell me that Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim. BUT WHAT RELIGION WAS JOHN DOE #2, WHO WAS NEVER LOCATED? at April 17, 2007 03:28 PM I think people here are missing the larger point: We left South Korea fifty plus years ago and now the terrorists have followed us home. at April 17, 2007 03:34 PM My point is more along the lines of this: Yesterday, 32 innocent people died. show some respect for the dead, and give them a few moments of silence. at April 17, 2007 03:53 PM "Ismail Ax" is A CLUE, not a conlusion. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Debbie, but this is your point. It's a clue to this guy as well as a likely inspiration to others. The conclusion, arrived at before yesterday, is that Islam (and the multilcultural Left) inspire, exhort, praise, extol Muslims to commit violence against all kinds of people non-Muslims mostly but also other Muslims. Those who don't get the conclusion will never get the clue. Also, leslie's point deserves repeating: "Terrorists aren't necessarily "card-carrying" members of an organization. Bin Laden and his head honchos have ordered "all Muslims" to carry out Jihad against the West (translated as "kill or convert EVERYONE who is not a fundamentalist Muslim"). A sole terrorist is just as much a terrorist as one who acts with others if he/she kills innocent people in the name of Allah. s Ramadan, or Fasting and Humiliation, was to continue all day, I did not choose to disturb him till towards night-fall; s religious obligations, never mind how comical, and could not find it in my heart to undervalue even a congregation of ants worshipping a toad-stool; or those other creatures in certain parts of our earth, who with a degree of footmanism quite unprecedented in other planets, bow down before the torso of a deceased landed proprietor merely on account of the inordinate possessions yet owned and rented in his name. I say, we good Presbyterian Christians should be charitable in these things, and not fancy ourselves so vastly superior to other mortals, pagans and what not, because of their half-crazy conceits on these subjects. for we are all somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending. Towards evening, when I felt assured that all his performances and rituals must be over, I went to his room and knocked at the ... |
urltea.com/dxr -> www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/2007/04/virginia_tech_s.html#comments Chicago Tribune reports that Virginia Tech University massacre perpetrator, Cho Seung-Hui, died with the words "Ismail Ax" in red ink on one of his arms. Ismail--the Arabic name for Ishmael--considered the father of all Arabs and a very important figure in Islam. Or maybe he wanted to remind himself to buy an Ax for his friend Ismail for next Ramadan. Or I'm sure we'll hear some other similarly absurd "explanation." cgi/2276 Comments I've seen a Christian with a verse in Hebrew from the Book of Ruth tattooed on his arm. Also an irreligious, multi-piercing type with the entire Hebrew alphabet tattooed. at April 17, 2007 01:18 PM Debbie, the same article you quote from also mentions that the kid was clearly off his rocker. He was seriously disturbed -- mentally ill with a growing taste for violence, rage, and death. He'd been referred to Student Health Services and was already under investigation for several earlier incidents, all signs of how unglued this kid was. Trying to tie him to either illegal immigration -- he was here legally -- or Islamic terrorism -- he was an English major, for Cthulhu's sake -- is the epitome of opportunism on your part. I'd point out you should be ashamed of yourself, but then you are a lawyer... THE SAME MEDIA THAT ALSO CONSTANTLY SAYS THAT EVERY ISLAMIC ATTACKER IN THE LAST TWO YEARS HAS BEEN "NUTS"--A/K/A SUDDEN JIHAD SYNDROME THE MUSLIMS WHO ATTACKED THE SEATTLE JEWISH COMMUNITY CENTER, THE JEW AT THE BALTIMORE MOVIE THEATER, THE STUDENTS AT UNC, TROLLEY SQUARE MALL IN UTAH--THEY WERE ALL "NUTS." THE ONLY ONE WHO SHOULD BE ASHAMED HERE IS THE ONE WHO IS WILLINGLY WEARING BLINDERS AS HIS/HER NEWEST FASHION ACCESSORY: YOU. This would make sense since he was apparently an engineering student. I WENT TO THIS PAGE AND THERE'S NO REFERENCE TO "ISMAIL AX." ONLY A WHOLE BUNCH OF DIFFERENT ACADEMICS WITH ISMAIL IN THEIR NAMES ABSOLUTELY NO REFERENCE TO "ISMAIL AX" ON THE PAGE. at April 17, 2007 01:38 PM The "asian" shooter was probably a muslim convert. Then again there are alot of asian muslims, a good portion of them have ties with these terror organizations but as usual, the feckless puppet anchormen/women running the media won't cover that one for you just as they didn't do so with the Utah Mall shooter's ethnic backround. at April 17, 2007 02:04 PM Ax is actually a Dutch surname, maybe he's a militant Calvinist upset at the falling price of tulip bulbs and windmill spare-parts. YES, AND ISMAIL AND AHMED AND MOHAMMED ARE "DUTCH," TOO. at April 17, 2007 02:27 PM isn't it possible that he was referring to Ishmael from Moby Dick? the name Ishmael or Ismail can also reprensent being orphaned, exiled, etc. which actually makes a heck of a lot of sense, considering the source. i think this is as likely an explanation as anythign else i've seen here today. SOMETHING WHICH I'M SURE MOST SOUTH KOREANS DO EVERY DAY. at April 17, 2007 02:32 PM see atlas "By Allah, he said, I shall plot a plan to destroy their idols. Ismail said without hesitation: "Do what you are commanded, you shall find me very patient insha Allah He said to the statues, joking; then with his ax he destroyed all the statues except one, the biggest of them. I wonder if it belongs to the shooter and if the cops are looking into it." Good to see that canuckSteve hasn't grown any new brain cells recently. A simple 'whois' search would have shown you the website was registered a couple of hours ago, so its an opportunist. ORG Created On:17-Apr-2007 16:51:46 UTC Last Updated On:17-Apr-2007 16:51:51 UTC Expiration Date:17-Apr-2008 16:51:46 UTC Sponsoring Registrar:eNom, Inc. com/photos/eldarossell/203788467 posted last year shows an asian fellow that shares the killers original name and states that he goes by Ismail because it's easier to pronounce. Don't jump to conclusions and make yourselves look like (bigger)asses. Wait until something definitive is announced, and then go nuts. I'm going to be laughing for days if it turns out that this kid had nothing to do Islam and you guys are exposed as the raving lunatics you are. IF I THOUGHT SOMEONE WAS A LUNATIC, I WOULDN'T BE THEIR LOYAL READER FOR TWO YEARS. at April 17, 2007 02:48 PM Anybody that arms himself to the teeth and takes out 33 people is a TERRORIST. It matters not whether he's a mooselim, a pentecostal, or a scientologist. It's not as if we find a link to Al Queida, we can suddenly convince leftist moonbats that there is a clear and present danger. but that doesn't excuse the act or explain the motivation. The fact that we aren't being shown the "disturbing note" could mean that there is some Islamic-type ranting in it. OR, MORE LIKELY, a guy who became very disturbed listening to or reading radical Islamic teachings. at April 17, 2007 03:11 PM Terrorists aren't necessarily "card-carrying" members of an organization. Bin Laden and his head honchos have ordered "all Muslims" to carry out Jihad against the West (translated as "kill or convert EVERYONE who is not a fundamentalist Muslim"). A sole terrorist is just as much a terrorist as one who acts with others if he/she kills innocent people in the name of Allah. at April 17, 2007 03:25 PM "I'm going to be laughing for days if it turns out that this kid had nothing to do Islam and you guys are exposed as the raving lunatics you are. Posted by: ConservativesLovePuns(descent) " If I am incorrect, I'll just apologize, receive diversity training, and get in line. Then again, people laughed at the "Night Stalker" when he said "Satan commanded me." at April 17, 2007 03:26 PM I love this line of reasoning; we don't know what it means, so we're just going to go with Islam being the cause of the Virginia Tech massacre. Because they won't show the note, that means it must be in Arabic? How does that make those of you that live in Detroit and Virginia feel? Next thing you know you're going to go back and tell me that Timothy McVeigh was a Muslim. BUT WHAT RELIGION WAS JOHN DOE #2, WHO WAS NEVER LOCATED? at April 17, 2007 03:28 PM I think people here are missing the larger point: We left South Korea fifty plus years ago and now the terrorists have followed us home. at April 17, 2007 03:34 PM My point is more along the lines of this: Yesterday, 32 innocent people died. show some respect for the dead, and give them a few moments of silence. at April 17, 2007 03:53 PM "Ismail Ax" is A CLUE, not a conlusion. Please correct me if I'm wrong, Debbie, but this is your point. It's a clue to this guy as well as a likely inspiration to others. The conclusion, arrived at before yesterday, is that Islam (and the multilcultural Left) inspire, exhort, praise, extol Muslims to commit violence against all kinds of people non-Muslims mostly but also other Muslims. Those who don't get the conclusion will never get the clue. Also, leslie's point deserves repeating: "Terrorists aren't necessarily "card-carrying" members of an organization. Bin Laden and his head honchos have ordered "all Muslims" to carry out Jihad against the West (translated as "kill or convert EVERYONE who is not a fundamentalist Muslim"). A sole terrorist is just as much a terrorist as one who acts with others if he/she kills innocent people in the name of Allah. s Ramadan, or Fasting and Humiliation, was to continue all day, I did not choose to disturb him till towards night-fall; s religious obligations, never mind how comical, and could not find it in my heart to undervalue even a congregation of ants worshipping a toad-stool; or those other creatures in certain parts of our earth, who with a degree of footmanism quite unprecedented in other planets, bow down before the torso of a deceased landed proprietor merely on account of the inordinate possessions yet owned and rented in his name. I say, we good Presbyterian Christians should be charitable in these things, and not fancy ourselves so vastly superior to other mortals, pagans and what not, because of their half-crazy conceits on these subjects. for we are all somehow dreadfully cracked about the head, and sadly need mending. Towards evening, when I felt assured that all his performances and rituals must be over, I went to his room and knocked at the ... |