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2007/4/1-3 [Politics/Domestic/President/Bush] UID:46170 Activity:moderate
4/1     Senior Republican strategist loses faith on Bush after son is
        ordered to deploy to Iraq:
        "If the American public says they're done with something, our leaders
        have to understand what they want," Dowd said. "They're saying, 'Get
        out of Iraq."'
        http://www.csua.org/u/icy
        \_ More like, "political opportunist who follows blowing winds decides
           he can make more money buttering the other side of his bread for
           the next few years".  The guy started as a Democrat when that's who
           was in power, then switched when he saw money in being a Republican
           and now sees the wind shifting the other way.  I don't see what his
           son has to do with it.  When Rove switches parties it'll be news.
           \_ When is Rove's first born deploying to Iraq?
              \_ As soon as he sees Rove rapping.
              \_ Does Rove even have kids?  Is he or has he ever been married?
                 \_ He has special drawing rights on Bush's Comfort Women
                    [condie, harriet, karen etc] as well as 20-30 somethings
                    with no qulaitification except marginal reglious educations
                    and zealotry/loyalty.
                 \_ Married and divorced. One son, 20, just the right age
                    to sign up for his country:
                    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove
           \_ After Bush, if Rove discovers the equivalent of Evangelicals == Reelection
              Forever, he would switch parties faster than you can say Deep Fried Dollars
           \_ After Bush, if Rove discovers the equivalent of
              Evangelicals == Reelection Forever, he would switch
              parties faster than you can say Deep Fried Dollars
              \_ And Rove switching parties would be news.
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Click this Mojo Ad Matthew Dowd, a polling expert who switched parties to become a Republican and also served as a senior strategist in Bush's 2000 presidential campaign, told The New York Times in an interview on Sunday that Bush must face up to Americans' growing disillusionment with the war. Dowd said he had found himself agreeing with calls by Democratic Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts, Bush's opponent in 2004, for a withdrawal of US troops from Iraq. "If the American public says they're done with something, our leaders have to understand what they want," Dowd said. "' He also cited the administration's bungled handling of the response to Hurricane Katrina in 2005 and Bush's refusal to meet Cindy Sheehan, who had lost a son in Iraq, while she was leading a protest outside Bush's Texas ranch. "I had finally come to the conclusion that maybe all these things along do add up," Dowd said. "That it's not the same, it's not the person I thought." Although some other administration officials have expressed similar views over the years, the Times said Dowd is the first member of Bush's inner circle to break so publicly with him. Dowd said he had been attracted to Bush by his ability as Texas governor to work across party lines but Bush had failed to do the same as president and had become isolated with his views hardening. The Times said Dowd was speaking out partly in an effort to get through to Bush. "I really like him, which is why I'm so disappointed in things," Dowd said. "I think he's become more, in my view, secluded and bubbled in." SHARED SACRIFICE He said Bush had failed to call for a shared sacrifice among Americans after the September 11 attacks and followed a divisive political strategy. Dowd helped develop Bush's successful re-election strategy of rallying his Republican "base" but sounded a different note in the Times interview. "I think we should design campaigns that appeal not to 51 percent of the people," he said, "but to bring the country together as a whole." White House counselor Dan Bartlett said Dowd's criticism reflects the US debate over the war. "This war is a complicated and difficult one and it brings out emotions in people from both sides of the aisle, even those who work closely for the president, and the president respects his position," Bartlett said on CBS television's "Face the Nation." "Obviously, we disagree with him as far as him (Bush) being too insular or him bringing the troops home," Bartlett said. "What troubles me is that there is a perception that this president doesn't understand the difficulties of this war ... The Times said Dowd acknowledged that the expected deployment to Iraq of his oldest son, Daniel, an Army intelligence specialist, was a factor in his changed view of Bush. Dowd said he now wanted to "do my part in fixing fissures that I may have been a part of." voting record) of Illinois as the only 2008 presidential candidate who appeals to him but said the idea of mission work also was attractive as a way to "re-establish a level of gentleness in the world." Republication or redistribution of Reuters content is expressly prohibited without the prior written consent of Reuters. Reuters shall not be liable for any errors or delays in the content, or for any actions taken in reliance thereon.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karl_Rove
New Yorker profile, Rove, the second of five chil dren, found out at nineteen (during his parents' divorce negotiations) t hat the man who raised him was not his biological father. Rove's mother would later commit suicide (in Reno, Nevada, in 1981). Alan Dixon and stole some lette rhead, which he used to print fake campaign rally fliers promising "free beer, free food, girls and a good time for nothing," and distributed th em at rock concerts and homeless shelters. Admitting to the incident muc h later, Rove said, "I was nineteen and I got involved in a political pr ank." Robert Mosbacher had allotted Rove only one-quarter of the campaign's $1 million direct mail contract, after Rove had the entire contract in 1988. As Novak wrote, "A lso attending the session was political consultant Karl Rove, who had be en shoved aside by Mosbacher". The US Senate voted unanimously on SJ 23 - (98 yeas, 2 republicans not voting) to authorize the use o f military force in retaliation for the September 11th terrorist attacks . Rove's comment has caused Democrats to demand an apology or r esignation, while the White House and other Republicans stand behind him . Families of September 11, a nonprofit organization founded in October 2001 by families of those who died in the September 11 terrorist attacks , issued a statement requesting Rove "resist his temptations and stop tr ying to reap political gain in the tragic misfortune of others." Of his trip to Niger Wilson wrote, "I spent the next eight da ys drinking sweet mint tea and meeting with dozens of people: current go vernment officials, former government officials, people associated with the country's uranium business. Novak went on to identify Plame as Wilson's wife: "Wilson never worke d for the CIA, but his wife, Valerie Plame, is an Agency operative on we apons of mass destruction. Two senior administration officials told me W ilson's wife suggested sending him to Niger to investigate the Italian r eport. The CIA says its counter-proliferation officials selected Wilson and asked his wife to contact him." Although Wilson wrote that he was certain his findings were circulated within the CIA and conveyed (at least orally) to the office of the Vice President, Novak questioned the accuracy of Wilson's report and added that "it is doubtful Tenet eve r saw it." Several high ranking CIA officials disputed this claim, however, and indicated that the person who made th e claim was not present at the meeting where Wilson was chosen. Time, Wilson, who served as an ambassador to Gabon an d as a senior American diplomat in Baghdad under the current president's father, angrily said that his wife had nothing to do with his trip to A frica. Time magazine, published Plame's name citing unnamed government officials as sources. ", Cooper raised the possibility that the White House ha d "declared war" on Wilson for speaking out against the Bush Administrat ion. Chris Matthews have been mentioned in the press as having early knowledg e of the Plame leak, although their conversations with (unnamed) White H ouse officials may have taken place after Novak's article was published. edit Anger from the CIA, Independent Counsel investigation Though Plame's exposure was claimed to be retaliation for Wilson's outspo kenness, the White House denied any involvement. Intelligence Identities Protect ion Act of 1982, though the language of the statute raises the issue of whether Rove is within the class of persons to whom the statute applies. Time magazine said it would surrender to Fitzgerald e-mail records and notes taken by Cooper. Miller and Cooper faced potential jail terms for failure to cooperate w ith the independent counsel's investigations. Columnist Robert Novak, who later admitted that the CIA attempted to dissuade him from re vealing Plame's name in print, "appears to have made some kind of arrang ement with the special prosecutor" (according to Newsweek). In the July 17 Time magazine article detailing his Grand Jur y testimony, Cooper writes that Rove never used Plame's name, nor indica ted that she had covert status. Cooper writes "Was it through my convers ation with Rove that I learned for the first time that Wilson's wife wor ked at the CIA and may have been responsible for sending him? This second statement has since been called into question by an e-mail, written three days before Novak's column, in which Cooper indic ated that Rove had told him Wilson's wife worked at the CIA. If Rove wer e aware that this was classified information at the time then both discl aimers by his lawyer would be untrue. Cooper said "I went to b ed ready to accept the sanctions for not testifying," but told the judge that not long before his early afternoon appearance at court he had rec eived "in somewhat dramatic fashion" an indication from his source freei ng him from his commitment to keep his source's identity secret. For som e observers this called into question the allegations against Rove, who had signed a waiver months before permitting reporters to testify about their conversations with him (see above paragraph). Cooper, however, stated in court that he did not previously accept a gene ral waiver to journalists signed by his source (whom he did not identify by name), because he had made a personal pledge of confidentiality to h is source. The 'dramatic change' which allowed Cooper to testify was lat er revealed to be a phone conversation between lawyers for Cooper and hi s source confirming that the waiver signed two years earlier included co nversations with Cooper. In it Rove, prio r to the investigation, alerts the president's No. Rove states in the email, "I didn't take the bait," referring to hi s denial that Bush had been hurt by the allegations. If true, this would indicate tha t Rove identified Wilson's wife as a CIA employee prior to Novak's colum n being published. Some believe that statements by Rove claiming he did not reveal her name would still be strictly accurate if he mentioned her only as 'Wilson's wife', although this distinction would likely have no bearing on the alleged illegality of the disclosure. The White House re peatedly denied the Rove had any involvement in the leaks. Whether Rove' s statement to Cooper that Wilson's wife worked at the CIA in fact viola ted any laws has not been resolved. Niger," and in an apparent effort to discourage Cooper from taking the former ambas sador's assertions seriously, gave Cooper a "big warning" not to "get to o far out on Wilson." Cooper recommended that his bureau chief assign a reporter to contact the CIA for further confirmation, and indicated that the tip should not be sourced to Rove or even to the White House. Rove' s reported claim that Wilson's mission to Niger was "authorized" by his wife was not strictly true, as Valerie Wilson did not have the authority to authorize such a trip. However, CIA sources still differ on the exte nt of Valerie Wilson's involvement in her husband's selection. A Resolution of Inquiry has been offered by Rush Holt (D-NJ) and John Con yers (D-MI), requesting that the Bush Administration release all documen ts concerning the outing of Ms Plame. Barney Frank (D-MA) and John Conyers (D-MI) have authorized the Library o f Congress to research legal precedent for the impeachment of White Hous e staffers. edit White House reaction From the beginning, the White House has called the allegation that Rove d eliberately disclosed classified information "totally ridiculous" and "s imply not true." f anybody has got any information in side our government or outside our government who leaked, you ought to t ake it to the Justice Department so we can find the leaker." Speaking to a crowd of journalists the following day, Bush said " I have no idea whether we'll find out who the leaker is -- partially bec ause, in all due respect to your profession, you do a very good job of p rotecting the leakers." Although De mocratic critics called for Rove's dismissal, or at the very least immed iate suspension of Rove's security clearances and access to meetings in which classified material was under discussion, Rove remained working in the White House...