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wrote about Julie MacDonald, the Bush appointee at the Fish and Wildlife Service, who, when she isn't ignoring agency scientist recommendations about endangered species, spends her time emailing copies of internal documents to industry lobbyists.
to an on-line game friend through his father's e-mail account. MacDonald said she is acquainted with the on-line friend through internet role-playing games. She said she engages in these games to relieve the stress created by her job;
however, I sent it to him to read for a better understanding." MacDonald could offer no explanation as to why she sent her child an e-mail containing an internal DOI/FWS document other than she feels frustrated at times and likes to have third party reviews of these documents. MacDonald opined that she sent FWS documents to the on-line game friend and her child to have another set of eyes give an unfiltered opinion of them, negative comments included.
com, held her first government job in 1979, she is hardly a "youngster." If she were hired right out of college, with a masters as the CV states, she would be in her 50's. gov/news/040503b Do the math: 1979- 6 (years to get a masters) = 1973, year she would have graduated from high school, at about 18 years old. I think there is a naive comfort for critics of this administration to write off the transgressions to underqualified "youngsters." That is not true, most are boomers, and they certainly knew exactly what they were doing. Posted by: eyesonthestreet Date: March 30, 2007 03:28 PM Julie MacDonald is welcome to send internal government documents to me any time she likes and I solemnly promise to give my unvarnished, unbiased opinion. In fact, my offer is extended to anyone in the Bush administration who wants to disseminate internal government docs. Posted by: Mrs Panstreppon Date: March 30, 2007 03:29 PM How odd that this kind of stuff never saw the light of day until just a few months ago. Posted by: Date: March 30, 2007 03:34 PM I can understand the earlier negative comment about her manipulation of agency science, but we aren't exactly talking about state secrets here. Any of this stuff would be subject to FOIA anyway, so who cares who she sent it to? If it wouldn't create bandwidth issues I wouldn't bat an eye if every voting age citizen was CC'd on every government email and "internal document" out there. Posted by: Fluffy Date: March 30, 2007 03:40 PM I wonder if she traded the internal document for a Dwarven Iron Helm of +3 Mana Regeneration. Posted by: aplomb Date: March 30, 2007 03:45 PM There's a reason these documents are internal. Just speaking in my own field, agriculture, there are a lot of farmers, agribusinesses and other sorts who'd like to get a holt of internal USDA stuff before it's officially announced, so they could position themselves accordingly. I can get beyond her sending what probably isn't a particularly sensitive document to a lay person that she's never met. But am I the only one who finds it odd that this person, presumably in her mid 50s or so, is calling guys who still live with their parents to shoot the shit and bitch about work? Am I the only one getting a seriously warped Mrs Robinson vibe from this whole thing? Posted by: Seitz Date: March 30, 2007 03:57 PM "I wonder if she traded the internal document for a Dwarven Iron Helm of +3 Mana Regeneration." That would probably make her a low level paladin, which sounds about right for this type of hack. Takes forever to get anything done, and at the first sign of real danger, she bubbles and hearths home to the RNC. Posted by: Aredubya Date: March 30, 2007 03:57 PM aplomb wrote: "I wonder if she traded the internal document for a Dwarven Iron Helm of +3 Mana Regeneration." When I laugh that hard my boss comes out to see what I'm up to. "* I can understand the argument that people with say there is just a Democratic witch hunt - when Clinton was investigated for everything he did, I thought it was a Republican witch hunt. The different here it really does seem that if you pick out a random administration official s/he would have done something corrupt. I think Bush and Karl are counting on the fact that noone could possibly believe they are that stupid and that corrupt - Bush just has to say "Look, they're going after the Fish and Wildlife person who's been involved with the Interior department for 25 years. And a lot of people who aren't actually looking at the charges and the evidence will probably agree. I find it all very distrubing, especially because I'm thinking, except for a few people, they'll all get away with it. I'm not even sure if they'll be able to force Gonzales out anymore.
being released Date: March 30, 2007 04:34 PM Wait, what's this "Summons to Appear Before Congress" all about? I can't find anything about it in the magic-users manual... Posted by: David W Date: March 30, 2007 04:36 PM aplomb's comment is the driest, pithiest zinger I've read in a long, long time. Posted by: Jerkstore Date: March 30, 2007 04:39 PM "MacDonald said she is acquainted with the on-line friend through internet role-playing games." Posted by: Sully18 Date: March 30, 2007 05:10 PM "But am I the only one who finds it odd that this person, presumably in her mid 50s or so, is calling guys who still live with their parents to shoot the shit and bitch about work? Am I the only one getting a seriously warped Mrs Robinson vibe from this whole thing?" In light of efforts being made to avoid WH controls over phones and emails, and folks getting excited that they now have a shiny new RNC-paid for BlackBerry so they can "really talk". When do you think that the staff is going to turn to World of Warcraft, Halo or Second Life to have conversations out of the reach of Congress and a newly re-focused Dept of Justice**? Mike in Austin ** In the future, the DOJ will root out public corruption, not assist in covering it up.
Mike Conwell Date: March 30, 2007 05:18 PM I'd bet fifty bucks the video game is Second Life. I say that because conversation isn't really a big part of any other computer game, and because the Second Life demo is friendly for females over 40. Anyone who cherishes the act of publicly embarrassing Bush hacks could try to find her avatar in SL. Avatars tend to be rather 'enhanced' human body shapes--yes, huge breasts--and include attachments for all kinds of activities--yes, genitals. Posted by: djangone Date: March 30, 2007 05:21 PM Presumably, Ms MacDonald sent internal agency research to a friend's child because she wanted someone more insightful and analytical than she to read and summarize it for her. Ms MacDonald, like Ms Doan, treats her agency as Bush appointees have typically treat them: as if they were a franchise bought and paid for, which has to return a profit for her and her friends, and for Mr Bush. Perhaps Mss MacDonald and Doan should try to relax, read a little something to take their minds off their troubles, The Pit and the Pendulum, maybe. Posted by: mbbsdphil Date: March 30, 2007 05:22 PM Paladins are lawful good, IIRC. members of this administration are a lot of things, but Lawful Good ain't one of them. Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil, those are your only two choices when you look inside the D + D: Bush Administration Creature Folio.
jnfr Date: March 30, 2007 05:32 PM Timing, Fluffy, is everything. Like whether you tell co-opted foreign intelligence assets before you publish the name of their CIA contact - or after. The difference can sometimes be measured in millimeters, sometimes 9, sometimes 765. More prosaically, revealing unfinalized, internal agency deliberations can lead to grave and illegal abuses. It can allow a lobbyist wrongfully to influence agency policy, or give others an unfair advantage. It can allow someone to buy or sell something, making an illegal profit. Julie MacDonald knew it was wrong and did it anyway because she thought no one was minding the store. What a street kid does in a shop, or a lobbyist in a Washington populated by a sleeping Congress. Posted by: mbbsdphil Date: March 30, 2007 05:38 PM ""MacDonald said she is acquainted with the on-line friend through internet role-playing ga...
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