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VictoryGal WASHINGTON -- Public allegiance to the Republican Party has plunged during George W Bush's presidency, as attitudes have edged away from some of the conservative values that fueled GOP political victories, a major survey has found. The survey, by the nonpartisan Pew Research Center for the People & the Press, found a "dramatic shift" in political party identification since 2002, when Republicans and Democrats were at rough parity. Now, 50% of those surveyed identified with or leaned toward Democrats, whereas 35% aligned with Republicans.
last I think the first paragraph is MSM garbage, and the second paragraph is closer to the truth. The GOP has, and the people have left in response to this. The GOP needs to wake up and renew itself to its core principles.
View Replies To: VictoryGal What's more, the survey found, public attitudes are drifting toward Democrats' values: Support for government aid to the disadvantaged has grown since the mid-1990s, skepticism about the use of military force has increased and support for traditional family values has decreased. Sounds like wishful thinking on the part of the LAstTimes.
View Replies To: VictoryGal More pseudo information/propaganda from the La Brea Tarpits Times and the P-U research center. Including statement key to entire endeavor: "What's more, the survey found, public attitudes are drifting toward Democrats' values: Support for government aid to the disadvantaged has grown since the mid-1990s, skepticism about the use of military force has increased and support for traditional family values has decreased."
View Replies To: VictoryGal Is this a survey of REGISTERED voters or an opinion poll of adults? Most of these polls show nothing of fact, but spout opinions that the writer thinks justify his story. Joseph's Cemetery, 100% of the demonRATs voted in the 2006 election.
View Replies To: VictoryGal Simple reason for this: Republicans haven't stood for anything, and accomplished relatively little while they were in power in Congress and the White House. They were capable of far more, but were too weak, too worried about the MSM, and too lacking in conviction and dedication to principle to acheive anything. Now, the Republicans are for the most part acting as though they are comfortable in the minority again. I'll support those (Republican or not) that are committed to Conservative Principles.
View Replies To: VictoryGal Read the full report, it is lengthy. While I agree with you that the GOP politicians in Congress failed up by porking up spending and failing to reduce the size of Government, this study goes much deeper and goes back years. People's attitudes are becoming more secular, more socialistic and more favorable to the government accession of power. I suspect that you are correct that some recent displeasure with the GOP could be reflected in this data, however, it would be a mistake to say that is the sole cause of this. I think it could be that the left's control of education is turning out more socialists now days.
View Replies To: VictoryGal The GOP needs to wake up and renew itself to its core principles. I don't even see conservatives being able to agree on their "core principles". I hardly think the GOP will be able to agree on core principles. For every election since 2000 the GOP actually increased its numbers in elective office.
View Replies To: GeorgefromGeorgia Possibly but it sure seems strange that if this trend has been going on for so long now how come the demo/socialists haven't won every election by a landslide? They barely won this one and that was with an unpopular war and 6 years of unrelenting attack, disloyalty to the conservative base and outright lying and manipulation by the left.
Al Simmons "Now, 50% of those surveyed identified with or leaned toward Democrats, whereas 35% aligned with Republicans." Now someone here please explain to me how someone can get elected president with 35% of the votes in a general election. And remember this is the 35% who are "aligned" with Republicans, ie probably some independents included, to whom Republican fiscal conservatism appeals. The % of those who are solidly also social conservatives are most likely much less. REALITY is that for ANY Republican to get elected president he MUST appeal to independents/moderates and even some Democrats. Either nominate a Republican WHO CAN WIN -- ie APPEAL to a broad spectrum of voters or say hello to President Hillary. Anyone who prefers Hillary to an imperfect Republican is either not a conservative of has his/her braincells in storage.
View Replies To: VictoryGal I have an idea on how the Republicans can reverse the trend. The vast number of people in America are libertarian conservatives--limit goverment, limited government power, limited spending, reduced government regulation, lower taxes, government out of our lives. Run on that platform and then do it, and people will vote for you. Run on that platform and then do the opposite, and people will abandon the GOP.
View Replies To: VictoryGal Your comment is right on from my perspective. Bush is the best moderate Democrat we could elect - playing footsie with Kennedy since he arrived. Lacks the testicular fortitude to stand up to the Democrats, hangs on to failed policies viz. never explains what he is doing except for illegals - there he says "it isn't practical to deport them" buy never tries and continues to allow them in while hemming and hawing - secret agreements with the president of Mexico etc etc. DO NOT TELL ME NOT VOTING IS LIKE VOTING DEMOCRAT - LOOK AT BUSH!
View Replies To: VictoryGal The left has been forecasting the doom of the right every since there was a left and right. I think the difference is that the left always identifies with the democrats. The right only identifies with the Republicans when the Republicans identify with the right. Ours is a more principled stand - theirs is a more powerful stand.
View Replies "Kohut said the spread between the parties mostly reflected the defection of independents from the GOP more than a more favorable assessment of the Democrats. " As I said, if Republicans won't appeal to independents, they are setting themselves up to be not only a permanent minority, but an ever shrinking minority -- ciding the leadership of the country to the Democrats entirely, for the next 50-100 years.
View Replies To: VictoryGal Again , the pew institute and the Left Angles Times are parts of the leftist pr machine . Its odd how they never have studied the even larger drop in Democrat voters ? This is more DNC propaganda meant to disillusion the RNC base.
View Replies To: FairOpinion "an imperfect Republican" got us to where we are today. He and his father before him destroyed the GOP libertarian-conservative majority that won Reagan two land-slide terms. That majority is still out there, but they don't trust the GOP. You can only promise and not deliver smaller government so many times before people won't believe you any more. He told us that they were going to deliver "compassionate conservatism." What we got are open borders, NCLB, CFR, Patriot Act, massive increases in the deficit and pork barrel spending, ...
View Replies To: GeorgefromGeorgia " People's attitudes are becoming more secular, more socialistic and more favorable to the government accession of power." Thank you, mass media, socialist takeover of education... I would be more inclined to take this seriously if they had polled more than 2,000 people, hardly representative of the entire country, and God knows how they picked them, I'd be surprised if it was a random sample, knowing P U Research and its historic biases.
View Replies To: RockinRight Thompson is starting to sound good, but I do not know enough about him. I would probably vote for him but he needs more recognition - and I presume you don't mean the Democrat by the same last name.
View Replies To: VictoryGal Even I believe that what I am about to say is crazy and highly unlikely. I've begun to believe the republican party is going to be replaced by a new party. If you or your leaders do all the stupidest things for long enough, there will be consequences. ...
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