3/4 Dem polls: Rep polls:
H Clinton: 20% Romney: 20%
Edwards: 15% Guiliani: 14%
Obama: 11%
Gore (not runnig): 10%
My prediction for 2008: Romney will win because he's not a woman
and not black. In addition he's pro-life. -Southern Voter
\_ My prediction: Edwards will beat Guiliani after wining most of
The South. -SF Voter
\_ Mr.Let's_Make_C-sections_Common? Have you even seen his
video of him applying make-up on himself?
\_ Yes, most Americans are pro-choice. Do you honestly think
that a Yankee is going to sweep the South, especially vs.
a genuine Good Ole' Boy? If the Dumbocrats nominate Hillary,
Romney could win, granted.
\_ "Yeeehup, thair aint no wayz no howz weze gunna votes fer
enywun butt ar owns!" So what you're saying is you think
a majority of voting Southerners are stupid hicks who won't
vote for anyone who isn't also a "Good Ole' Boy". Why do
you think that?
\_ Are you "Southern Voter"? Have you actually lived in
The South? I have. I certainly do not believe that
a majority of Southerners are hicks. I think that
enough swing voters (about 5% in most states) are
strongly enough biased against Yankees that this
will change a close race. Why do you believe otherwise,
other than your wish that your candidate would be
elected?
\_ See? Doesn't that feel better providing some
substance to back your statements? And none of these
people are "my candidate". It is ridiculous that
we're even talking about the elections this early.
\_ What happened to your troll? Delete it?
\_ No, not rediculous at all. The CA primaries are
\_ No, not ridiculous at all. The CA primaries are
in Feb, so the parties will have already made
their choices in less than a year.
\_ A year? Ridiculous. It shouldn't take a year
of endless Obama vs. Hillary vs. Rudy vs.
McCain vs. Whoever to pick primary candidates.
Especially this sort of high intensity daily
campaign noise we're getting today. I'm tuning
out until something more interesting happens
than "Hillary Adopts Southern Accent! Obama
Counters With Own Accent! Rudy Sticks To NY
Accent! McCain Finds New Accent Coach!" This
is all bullshit and has nothing to do with
anything important. Or shouldn't, anyway.
\_ Whether it "should" or not, I don't really
have a strong opinion one way or another.
The fact is, if you want to have some kind
of influence over the nomination process,
you need to get started on it now. If you
don't care who the next President of the
United States is, why bother even talking
about in the motd?
\_ So because I think it's too early and
the current "campaigns" are all bullshit
you think I don't care about who the
next President is? I care a lot. That
is why I think the current reporting and
noise is just that, noise. There is no
substance to anything currently going on.
\_ You are wrong about that. Last week
I was in a smallish room full of
Bay Area Democratic fund raisers and
we listened to Senator Edwards present
his case as to why we should support
him. Next week we listen to Senator
Obama and the week after that Senator
Clinton. In early April we will
caucus and give an endorsement and
at that point probably most or all
of us will give the legal maximum
donation to their chosen candidate.
Multiply this by 50 times and you
have a big chunk of the party
fundraising already completed by
mid-April. Anyone that hasn't been
able to raise $10M by May will be
finished and will have to drop out.
That is just how the system works.
I imagine something similar is
going on in the Republican Party.
If you are just talking about how
your personal vote is going to go,
fine, but all the campaigns are trying
to grab money, organizational skills
and experienced campaigners to their
side right now and the ones that
are the most successful will have
the inside track when the "real"
campaign starts.
\- just to add on: a lot of pols
emphasize the role of early money
e.g. EMILY's list stands for:
Early Money Is Like Yeast etc.
\_ Romney will not win. He's Mormon. Except for Kennedy, no
non-WASP has ever won.
\_ That's what they said about Kennedy. Until he won. "No Catholic
has ever been elected President. The voters just aren't ready
for a Catholic President." So other than being Mormon, which is
not important, why couldn't Romney win?
\_ Because he's on record up until a couple of years ago as being
pro-gay, pro-choice, etc. "The base" won't go for it.
\_ "The base" would eat rusty nails before they watched
Hillary get elected and stayed home on voting day.
\_ I'm saying Romney will implode in the primaries.
\_ You think he'll "AAARRRR!!!" on camera or rape a goat
during a taped interview or what?
\_ My prediction: the primaries and then the election are so insanely
far away that none of this means anything. Any of these people
could easily implode in an "AAAAARRRRRR!!!!" moment or just have a
series of bad days they never recover from or do a really horrible
interview or just the world around us will change in such a way
that their current speechifying will be ridiculously wrong for the
future when we are voting but will be rubbed in their face.
Anything can happen and often does.
\_ We are BUSHCO. Cancel your election and surrender your votes.
Resistence is Futile. -dcheney |
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