1/26    Trying to connect to port 993 using SSL, in Thunderbird with no luck.
        \_ I can replicate this, but will have to tcpdump to figure out what
           the actual problem is.  Try <DEAD>mail.csua.berkeley.edu<DEAD> (which hostname
           I'll have to gen a cert for at some point).  -- darch
           \_ other than the cert not being in my CA list, SSL IMAP
              on mail.csua seems to work.  Yay!  Good job, darch!
              \_ what do you use for your imap path?  I haven't been able
                 to get file in my /var/spool/mail/{user} directory show up?