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1/26 Test 123 123. Yay it works. Time to move all the files out.
Time to move out for good. Good bye soda. You've been good to
me for the past 15 years.
\_ Same here. You've been good to me for about 11.5 years and not
so good for 1 year.
\_ Just curious... how much did you pay for the service? I got
the alum special rate.
\_ Not everyone on here is a freeloader.
\_ You're right. The people who got jobs through me *only*
because of soda being here, my technical postings and
past hardware donations have no value. I've still paid
nothing for the service. What have *you* done for soda?
\_ I've donated $$$.
\_ So? This is a community and a community service.
Your $50 doesn't entitle you to a whole lot of
service. Go talk to any hosting provider and see
what they'll charge you for a lot less than soda
provides.
\_ I think you missed the point here. I said
"Not everyone on here is a freeloader." The
implication was that the "alumni special
rate" is free. For many of us, the "alumni
special rate" was not free, whether it be
in dollars, time, or whathaveyou.
\_ The 'price' paid by almost every soda user is
near zero over time. I've had a soda account
for 18 years. In that time I've helped with
hardware donations (a long time ago), got at
least 1 person a job they still have 2-3 years
later, and provided technical advice several
times. During that time soda has been down a
few times for a total of a few months. Big
deal. The alumni special rate is "I help you
when I can, you do your job to keep the host
up so I can be here". It's a fair trade. The
moment the box goes down it hurts the ugrads
more than it hurts the alumni. Unless you're
one of the itty bitty tiny number of people
who has been physically there helping to
rebuild soda and carefully guiding the org
through these dark and woeful times </sarcasm>
you have little to bitch about.
\_ I would argue that the one year of 'badness' is due to VP
hozage. To misquote Lennon: All we are saying is give
darch a chance.
\_ Uh, didnt "we" give him +3 weeks?
As to the freeloading comments: there are plenty of people
here to have already "served." I think they are entitled
to comment. And the comments about they are not being
paid is silly. If you volunteer, you are on the hook.
Nobody is forcing you to volunteer, but if you accept the
job, you shouldn't be a flake. Additionally, some of
the people in charge now are fools, like putting up a
message like "W00T" when the web server came back rather
than something informative.
\_ 3+ weeks? Have you ever stepped into someone else's mess
and had to clean it up? 3 weeks is nothing. I agree that
more information would have been good though. I didn't
even know anyone was working on it and assumed it was not
coming back.
\_ Not to mention that these were 3 weeks, DURING THE
HOLIDAY, alone, while entirely refactoring the machine
room, fixing someone else's mess, and dealing with the
department -- also on holiday (and you know how gov't
institutions run...). Many all-nighters were pulled.
Respect darch's authori-tay! --michener
\- heh: [n.b. i am laughing at hillary, not with]:
http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/28/america/NA-POL-US-Clinton-2008.php
\_ What did you expect? This is business as usual
stuff.
\_ Commander-In-Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton. Kind of has a nice ring to it.
\_ The first thing she'd do is send troops somewhere to show everyone
she can be "as tough as any man, no wait, tougher! I'll send twice
as many!"
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2z4e28 (iht.com)
\_ Commander-In-Chief Hillary Rodham Clinton. Kind of
has a nice ring to it.
\_ The first thing she'd do is send troops somewhere
to show everyone she can be "as tough as any man,
no wait, tougher! I'll send twice as many!" |
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| www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/28/america/NA-POL-US-Clinton-2008.php Share Article Add to Clippings Text Size DAVENPORT, Iowa: US presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday that US President George W Bush should withdraw all US troops from Iraq before he leaves office, saying it would be "the height of irresponsibility" to pass the war along to the next commander in chief. "This was his decision to go to war with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy," the Democratic senator said her in first presidential campaign tour through the early-voting state of Iowa. "We expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office" in January 2009, the former first lady said. The White House condemned Clinton's comments as a partisan attack that undermines US soldiers. About 130,000 American troops are in Iraq, and Bush has announced this month he was sending 21,500 more as part of his new war strategy. News Analysis: Confronting Iran, Bush burdened with legacy of Iraq distortions Pressed during a forum to defend her vote to authorize force in Iraq before the US-led invasion in March 2003, Clinton responded by increasing her criticism of Bush. "I am going to level with you, the president has said this is going to be left to his successor," Clinton said. "I think it is the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it." Bush describes Iraq as the central front in the global fight against terrorism that began after the attacks of Sept. "The war on terror will be a problem for the next president. an enemy that would like to strike the United States again," he recently told USA Today newspaper. One questioner asked Clinton if her track record showed she could stand up to "evil men" around the world. "The question is, we face a lot of dangers in the world and, in the gentleman's words, we face a lot of evil men and what in my background equips me to deal with evil and bad men," Clinton said. She paused to gaze while the audience interrupted with about 30 seconds of laughter and applause. Meeting later with reporters, she was pressed repeatedly to explain what she meant. She told reporters that evil men included al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, who remains at large. During the town hall meeting, she tried to make clear that she thinks she would be a chief executive with enough fortitude to confront any danger facing the country. "I believe that a lot in my background and a lot in my public life shows the character and toughness that is required to be president," Clinton said. "It also shows that I want to get back to bringing the world around to support us again." Clinton defended the role that Congress has played, saying newly empowered Democrats are beginning to build pressure on Bush to act, but the public needs to be patient. "It's a frustrating process, our system is sometimes frustrating." |
| preview.tinyurl.com/2z4e28 -> www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/01/28/america/NA-POL-US-Clinton-2008.php Share Article Add to Clippings Text Size DAVENPORT, Iowa: US presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said Sunday that US President George W Bush should withdraw all US troops from Iraq before he leaves office, saying it would be "the height of irresponsibility" to pass the war along to the next commander in chief. "This was his decision to go to war with an ill-conceived plan and an incompetently executed strategy," the Democratic senator said her in first presidential campaign tour through the early-voting state of Iowa. "We expect him to extricate our country from this before he leaves office" in January 2009, the former first lady said. The White House condemned Clinton's comments as a partisan attack that undermines US soldiers. About 130,000 American troops are in Iraq, and Bush has announced this month he was sending 21,500 more as part of his new war strategy. News Analysis: Confronting Iran, Bush burdened with legacy of Iraq distortions Pressed during a forum to defend her vote to authorize force in Iraq before the US-led invasion in March 2003, Clinton responded by increasing her criticism of Bush. "I am going to level with you, the president has said this is going to be left to his successor," Clinton said. "I think it is the height of irresponsibility and I really resent it." Bush describes Iraq as the central front in the global fight against terrorism that began after the attacks of Sept. "The war on terror will be a problem for the next president. an enemy that would like to strike the United States again," he recently told USA Today newspaper. One questioner asked Clinton if her track record showed she could stand up to "evil men" around the world. "The question is, we face a lot of dangers in the world and, in the gentleman's words, we face a lot of evil men and what in my background equips me to deal with evil and bad men," Clinton said. She paused to gaze while the audience interrupted with about 30 seconds of laughter and applause. Meeting later with reporters, she was pressed repeatedly to explain what she meant. She told reporters that evil men included al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden, who remains at large. During the town hall meeting, she tried to make clear that she thinks she would be a chief executive with enough fortitude to confront any danger facing the country. "I believe that a lot in my background and a lot in my public life shows the character and toughness that is required to be president," Clinton said. "It also shows that I want to get back to bringing the world around to support us again." Clinton defended the role that Congress has played, saying newly empowered Democrats are beginning to build pressure on Bush to act, but the public needs to be patient. "It's a frustrating process, our system is sometimes frustrating." |