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2007/1/23-28 [Politics/Foreign/Asia/China] UID:45573 Activity:nil
1/23    "China weapons test shakes up world view"
        http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070123/ap_on_re_as/china_missile_test
        \_ I don't even know why people making a such big deal of this for
           the following reasons:
           - virtually all space program are run by the military.  What made
             China's space program so opaque again?
           - what China has done allegedly is something US and USSR has done
             in the 1980's.  That is 25+ years later.  What is a big deal?
           - China has tried this 4+ times and this is the first time it
             hit something.  There is a huge chance that this is nothing but
             a non-repeatable lucky shot.
           - China has begged US to sign a treaty banning the arming of space
             but US refused and said US need all means necessary to protect
             itself.  Don't you remember any of that yourself?
           \_ It's a big deal because only US and USSR had the capability to
              do this previously.  Also, there are concerns that the
              politicians don't have enough control over the military.
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news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070123/ap_on_re_as/china_missile_test
AP China weapons test shakes up world view By CHRISTOPHER BODEEN, Associated Press Writer Tue Jan 23, 2:52 PM ET SHANGHAI, China - China has sent men into orbit and launched dozens of satellites, but its test of a satellite-killing weapon is shaking up perceptions about where the Chinese space program is headed. The test, confirmed by Beijing on Tuesday after nearly a two-week silence, has drawn criticism from the US and Japan, and touched off fears of an arms race in space. The Chinese test "was an overtly military, very provocative event that cannot be spun any other way," said Rob Hewson, the London-based editor of Jane's Air-Launched Weapons. "So a bald assessment of that is that it's a big fat challenge." The test is a shot across the bow of US efforts to remain predominant in space and on the ground, where its military is heavily dependent on networks of satellites, particularly the low-altitude imaging intelligence models that help it find and hit targets. Japan, also seen as a regional rival, is similarly vulnerable, while any potential conflicts in space would put much of the industrialized world's economies at risk, given that satellites are used to relay phone calls and data and to map weather systems. That made China only the third country after Russia and the US to shoot down anything in space. Before that, China's military and its space program were largely seen as capable, but lagging in innovation. Still, its unclear what message China intended to send, underscoring the opacity of China's space and military programs and deepening suspicion over its avowed commitment to the purely peaceful use of space. Beijing has repeatedly pledged peaceful development of its army -- the world's largest -- but has caused unease among its neighbors by announcing double-digit military spending increases nearly every year since the early 1990s. The anti-satellite test threatens to "undermine relationships and fuel military tensions between space-faring nations," David Wright, of the Massachusetts-based Union of Concerned Scientists, said in a statement posted on the group's Web site that was typical of criticisms from the US scientific community. On Tuesday, the Foreign Ministry said it acknowledged holding the test to the US, Japan and other countries, but insisted it opposed any arms race in space. Both Washington and Tokyo have criticized the test as undermining efforts to keep weapons out of space. President Bush 's National Security Council declined to comment Tuesday. However, while China's act looked aggressive, some US officials were skeptical that Beijing would do anything to attack the satellites of the United States or Japan -- key trading partners. 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China has slung men into orbit and launched dozens of satellites, but its test of a satellite-killing weapon is shaking up perceptions about where the Chinese space program is headed. The information contained in the AP News report may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed without the prior written authority of The Associated Press.