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2007/1/7-16 [Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Iraq, Politics/Foreign/MiddleEast/Others] UID:45531 Activity:nil
1/14    Guys, I am a bit nervous.  I think we are going to attack Iran next...
        Well, in a way, we've already did.  Last time I checked, embassy is
        considered as sovereign territory of a nation. As we have raided the
        Iranian embassy in Iraq, we are in effect attack Iran territory.
        http://www.payvand.com/news/07/jan/1131.html
        Under normal circumstances, this would considered as an act of war.
        On top of this, we are moving a carrier strike group to Persian Golf.
        http://csua.org/u/hvx
        I am no military expert, but my knowledge tells me that carrier strike
        group is not the best tool to fight insurgency in Iraq.
        \_ That wasn't an embassy.  Although if it was an embassy that
           would just be karmic anyway.
           \_ I just think Bush's secret plan B is to escalate the war with
              Iran.
        \_ Bring it on!
        \_ Hey, you mean like we were supposed to have a military draft in
           2006?
           \_ if we were doing things right, we supposed to have a draft in
              2003, blanked Iraq with one million draftees, commit entire nation
              into this Iraqii mess.  Then again, may be you still think the
              war is going well.   I am still waiting to see that beacon of
              democracy in the middle east.
              2003, blanked Iraq with one million draftees, commit entire
              nation into this Iraqii mess.  Then again, may be you still
              think the war is going well.   I am still waiting to see that
              beacon of democracy in the middle east.
        \_ There have been numerous connections between the Iraq insurgency and
           Syria & Iran (weapons, personnel, etc.).  Stopping Iran from
           supplying weapons could very well help fighting the insurgents.
           \_ This is true. However, invading/waging war on Iran with the
              forces currently available to us is not likely to produce the
              result of "stopping Iran from supplying weapons" in the long run,
              unless we swallowed our pride and asked for help from Syria in
              pacifying Iraq. And hell, if we're going to go that route, why
              not just negotiate with Iran in the first place?
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