12/28 John Edwards runs again for the presidency. Let's see, the Dems
could pick a liberal hippy that has 0% of getting any vote in
the south, an outspoken female bitch that has no chance of getting
elected, and a black man whos last name is one letter away from
being Osama. Dems in 2008... what a joke.
\_ "Dam negro's name is Obama. That ryhmes with Osama, and his middle
name is Hussein. Dam negro is a terrorist in disguise, let's
hang him boys!" -average white Southerner
\_ And, hey, his middle name is Hussein! Think about it, people..
Think about it.
\_ It is unclear to me that people who would not vote for Obama because
he is black/his name sounds muslim would vote for any other
Democractic candidate anyway.
\_ A lot of people are not ready for a black/female president
who might still vote Democrat. It doesn't mean they hate
blacks/women.
\_ Wait, aren't you the same guy that said Dems had no chance in 2006?
\_ I must've missed the 2006 Presidential election.
\_ Wow, aren't we shallow! "hippy" "bitch" and "black man almost
named 'Osama'". You might be right on all points, but let me
ask you this: would any of them be a better president than
Bush?
\_ whether or not they would be a better president is immaterial.
The quesion is which is more likely to get elected.
\_ I already conceded you might be right about their
inelectability, given this country's bigotry and sexism.
Now, setting aside the question of electability, which
would be the better president?
\_ I'm not the op but here is my answer which probably
resonates with many readers out there:
In theory, ANY three candidate will do better than
GWB. IMHO GWB is not *my* president, he is the president
of the blind masses who voted for him and who are still
supporting him. And stop calling him "The president"
as the fucktard deserves as much respect as Nixon.
In reality though none of the three other candidates
will win. America is made up blind mass who do not
understand or care about policies. To them, as long
as its leader is strong, unwaivering, and/or good looking
or simply with whom they can relate to personally, then
that is the leader they will elect. This is the exact
reason why Bush and Reagan won despite the fact that
they're both fucktards.
The blind mass does not want smart and nerdy Kerry
+ Al Bore. Instead the blind mass want fantasies
where the leader is as strong and as likeable as
Clint Eastwood, and want to be told that their world
has become better because of them. If you Dems do not
understand this, you Dems will never win the hearts
of the blind mass. -former Dem
\_ Bitter, much?
\_ Better for...? The American people? The world? The
western world? At what? Domestic policy? Foreign?
Least corrupt (they're all corrupt)? Strengthing freedoms
at home? Abroad? Better economic policy? Better?
\_ It doesn't matter if my dog would be a better president than
Bush. Bush isn't running in 08. They don't have to beat Bush
in an election.
\_ The spectre of Bush will haunt the Republican Party for a
while. Who will the GOP nominate? Rice? Tancredo? Gingrich?
Are any of these people electable?
\_ Guiliani has the charm of Reagan.
\_ That's a different issue and I disagree with your opinion.
Voters tend to fall into two categories: the party line
types who vote for the R/D who are unlikely to either stay
home or vote non-R/D no matter what, and the more moderate
center who vote for the candidate they like in a personal
way. Bush is nothing but history for the 08 ballot box.
Rice is no more electable than Hillary. Neither has
engaged in a real campaign or a real debate. Gingrich
would have the support of a huge number of people but has
been on the side lines (mostly) for a long time. His
'crimes' were that he left his wife and married another
woman to whom he is still married. Tancredo? No.
Rudy? Has more political experience than a Hillary but
like Obama, Hillary, and McCain is just a media hyped
creation with limited support. My total guess based on
absolutely nothing (motd style) is that we'll see some
currently unknown dark horse come from the R side to win
the R nomination while one of the D's media hyped creatures
emerges with the D nomination but is badly battered by the
nomination process. I think this will be a hard fought
election season the likes of which the country has never
seen.
\_ How many people do you think went into the "non-R" camp
over the last 2 years?
\_ From the core "always vote R"? None. That's the
point. From the center, at current, any number
you'd like to name. But "at current" is not
important for the 08 election. What people think
and feel about the names on the ballot after the
campaign and a few debates is what matters, not
right now. I make no prediction about who or even
which party will actually win the 08 election. It
is far far far far (I feel like I'm writing a Star
Wars opener) far far too early for that right now.
\_ Bush did horribly on the debate yet he won.
Maybe you care about debates. Most
Americans do not.
\_ I disagree. The hype at the time was what a
fantastic uber debater Gore was and how smart
he was and how he was going to mop the floor
with W. He didn't live up to the hype so he
(Gore) didn't get what he should have from it.
If debates were unimportant to most Americans
then it wouldn't have been watched by a zillion
people and talked about everywhere the next
day. |
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